Rajon Rondo signs with the Atlanta Hawks. 2 years/$15 million

[ATLHawks3]

The fact that we're debating playing time is such a good problem to have.

[PSSSHHHRRR87]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Trae's Happy!

 

 

I guess Trae forgot Bob Pettit's number is retired. lol

[capstone21]

I will give the benefit of doubt and hope he is a locker room leader that will help impart wisdom and expertise as opposed to the guy who was a problem in Dallas, Chicago and Sacramento 

[Dnice]

I actually saw that pic on bleacher report,  but looking good though. 

[High5]

Could be a great move. Could be someone we end up trying to move at the deadline. Maybe both. Sucks for Dunn, but I assume he was aware of the possibility before he signed. He'll still get play at both guard spots as a defensive specialist. 

[JTB]

https://clutchpoints.com/hawks-rumors-bogdan-bogdanovic-could-sign-4-year-72-million-deal-with-atlanta/?fbclid=IwAR2HB9fR2Ebn-bv5Lct76xO8SsruGASItbFTuE-U0Nx5pbBDQ31NqaIUXRk
 

get it done Schlenk!!!!

[TheNorthCydeRises]

End of game defensive lineup ( need to prevent a 3 from tying or winning )

 

PG - Rondo 

G - Dunn 

G/F - Cam

F - Hunter

C - Capela

 

 

End of game offensive lineup ( need a 3 to tie or win the game )

 

PG - Trae

G - Huerter

G/F - Snell

F - Gallo

C - Collins

 

This team, all of a sudden, has become very balanced now.  

[gurpilo]

hace 14 minutos, PSSSHHHRRR87 dijo:

I think we'll be seeing Dunn & even Rondo playing a lot from the 2. Everybody loves Trae, but knows he's a liability on D. I can see us playing a line up of Trae/Rondo/Huerter/Gallinari/Collins or Trae/Dunn/Gallinari/Collins/Capela at times. And with Huerters ability to handle the ball, we may be seeing Huerter moved to a sixth man role and starting Dunn. CLP definitely has a TON of options for creating matchup nightmares for opponents.

And that is exactly the problem, playing guys out of position never works. Might work for a game or two but is bad medium and long term. Succesful teams have real depth at every position. Dunn at SG will be a disaster, we have 2 good backup PGs paid a lot that are barely going to play at their position and will need to play out of position (something is bad for the team) to justify the signings. We would have been better ti guarantee one of those 5 m$ go for a wing that is clearly weaker than PG and frontcourt.

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

End of game defensive lineup ( need to prevent a 3 from tying or winning )

 

PG - Rondo 

G - Dunn 

G/F - Cam

F - Hunter

C - Capela

 

 

End of game offensive lineup ( need a 3 to tie or win the game )

 

PG - Trae

G - Huerter

G/F - Snell

F - Gallo

C - Collins

 

This team, all of a sudden, has become very balanced now.  

[JTB]

5 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

And that is exactly the problem, playing guys out of position never works. Might work for a game or two but is bad medium and long term. Succesful teams have real depth at every position. Dunn at SG will be a disaster, we have 2 good backup PGs paid a lot that are barely going to play at their position and will need to play out of position (something is bad for the team) to justify the signings. We would have been better ti guarantee one of those 5 m$ go for a wing that is clearly weaker than PG and frontcourt.

Stay tune!

Edited November 21, 2020 by JTB

[Diesel]

This is unexpected.   But I guess he had to go somewhere.  Glad to have him!

 

[GameTime]

7 minutes ago, JTB said:

https://clutchpoints.com/hawks-rumors-bogdan-bogdanovic-could-sign-4-year-72-million-deal-with-atlanta/?fbclid=IwAR2HB9fR2Ebn-bv5Lct76xO8SsruGASItbFTuE-U0Nx5pbBDQ31NqaIUXRk
 

get it done Schlenk!!!!

Most 3 Point Shots Attempted in the NBA when we sign Bogi?

Trae, Gallo, Huerter, Bogi, Hunter, Collins, Reddish

[Sothron]

This signing doesn't make a lot of sense to me but ok...hope he is happy here. Don't want a repeat of Dallas or Boston.

[JayBirdHawk]

27 minutes ago, PSSSHHHRRR87 said:

I think we'll be seeing Dunn & even Rondo playing a lot from the 2. Everybody loves Trae, but knows he's a liability on D. I can see us playing a line up of Trae/Rondo/Huerter/Gallinari/Collins or Trae/Dunn/Gallinari/Collins/Capela at times. And with Huerters ability to handle the ball, we may be seeing Huerter moved to a sixth man role and starting Dunn. CLP definitely has a TON of options for creating matchup nightmares for opponents.

 

6 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

And that is exactly the problem, playing guys out of position never works. Might work for a game or two but is bad medium and long term. Succesful teams have real depth at every position. Dunn at SG will be a disaster, we have 2 good backup PGs paid a lot that are barely going to play at their position and will need to play out of position (something is bad for the team) to justify the signings. We would have been better ti guarantee one of those 5 m$ go for a wing that is clearly weaker than PG and frontcourt.

I don't see us having these crazy lineups.  We have enough depth to play guys in their natural positions.  Game flow, hot hands. match ups etc will determine the lineups game to game.

[marco102]

39 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

I will give the benefit of doubt and hope he is a locker room leader that will help impart wisdom and expertise as opposed to the guy who was a problem in Dallas, Chicago and Sacramento 

He was never a lockerroom problem in any of these places.  He had problems with the coaches, but was always a great mentor to the young players.  

Now, LP may hate him, but he'll still be a good mentor to our young core.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

9 minutes ago, gurpilo said:

And that is exactly the problem, playing guys out of position never works. Might work for a game or two but is bad medium and long term. Succesful teams have real depth at every position. Dunn at SG will be a disaster, we have 2 good backup PGs paid a lot that are barely going to play at their position and will need to play out of position (something is bad for the team) to justify the signings. We would have been better ti guarantee one of those 5 m$ go for a wing that is clearly weaker than PG and frontcourt.

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Playing guys out of position is most detrimental when you're talking about wings trying to play in the frontcourt vs much bigger and stronger guys, than guards trying to play one position upward.  Dunn is 6 - 3, and is more in the mold of an Avery Bradley / Tony Allen / Jrue Holiday /Marcus Smart . . guys that can legit guard anyone from PGs to SFs.

Playing Dunn at SG will be very easy, and much more appealing than you think.  His defense may even take minutes away from Huerter, if Huerter's shot isn't falling ).  He may also prove to be more valuable to the Hawks, than Rondo.

[Peoriabird]

14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

I don't see us having these crazy lineups.  We have enough depth to play guys in their natural positions.  Game flow, hot hands. match ups etc will determine the lineups game to game.

Hawk fans have gotten so use to crazy that they think crazy gives you some sort of advantage

[Peoriabird]

Atlanta Continues to Load Up with Rajon Rondo Signing

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Mark J. Terrill/Associated Press

Rajon Rondo agreed to join the Hawks on a two-year, $15 million deal, according to Yahoo Sports' Chris Haynes. It turns out Atlanta really was prepping a "significant offer" for the two-time champ after all.

This is, shall we say, an interesting fit. The Hawks need supplementary ball-handling around Trae Young, as well as capable playmakers to spearhead lineups without him, and Rondo proved instrumental, at times, during the Lakers' championship push on both sides of the floor.

Still, he isn't the antidote to no-star minutes on his own. The Lakers' half-court efficiency placed in the 21st percentile when he played without LeBron James, and it was only a hair better (38th percentile) when those stretches included Anthony Davis. The Hawks' no-Trae stints will be harder to survive.

Rondo also remains someone defenses ignore off the ball, so playing him in tandem with Young could be thorny. He isn't the non-shooter he was earlier in his career, but he converted just 32.8 percent of his threes last season—though, he did hit 40 percent of his triples in the playoffs—and no team posted a lower clip from downtown than Atlanta.

Yet, the Hawks aren't depending on Rondo to be the answer. They already agreed to a deal with Danilo Gallinari, a lights-out shot creator who alleviates the burden placed upon Young. And the addition of Kris Dunn gives them a viable backcourt alternative should Rondo's defensive effort wane too much during the regular season.

Equally important: Rondo immediately becomes Atlanta's second-best playmaker. He'll do as much as Gallinari, if not more, to get Young moving off the ball when they play together. Tack on the modest price point and short-term commitment, and Rondo's arrival, while far from making the Hawks postseason locks, is easy to embrace—if not outright like.

Grade: B

[Alex]

I have liked everything the Hawks did the last 24 hours or so until this.  Rondo is a punk through and through. Not a guy you want around mentoring anyone.

[RandomFan]

A snippet from the Athletic (obviously not the whole article): 

Playoff Rondo was legitimately good and a totally different player than the one we saw during the regular season. He was heavily engaged defensively, made clutch shots and was one of the key reasons why the Lakers ended up winning a championship. Anthony Davis explained Rondo’s importance to the Lakers back in September.

“His intensity picks up (in the postseason). He wants to guard the best perimeter guy,” Davis said. “We see he guards James (Harden) and (Russell Westbrook) sometimes. … He’s shooting the ball very well, making the right passes, so his IQ is on another level.

“We’ve got the two best IQ guys in the game, him and LeBron, on the floor at the same time, which is tough for defenses, and he’s making the right plays.”