Rate the Cam Trade (Assuming No Follow-Up Deal)

[AHF]

Share your rating of the deal.

[JayBirdHawk]

Can you fix item C- Trae?

[AHF]

14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Can you fix item C- Trae?

Fixed.  Thanks, Jay.

[Hawkmoor]

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 13, 2022 by Hawkmoor

[NBASupes]

F. It's a garbage deal. Could it be redeemed if we landed Sabonis for it. Maybe. Possibly. But as it stands, its painful.

[marco102]

I was going with F if this is it. 

I still TITS though.

I accidently show results instead of voting.

[JeffS17]

I think to really rate this deal, I need to see what Cam gets extended for.  I put C for neutral.  If he plays much much better and gets on a reasonable contract for the Knicks, I will jump on the "F" train, but I suspect he's going to be on an overpay-for-potential type of contract that I wouldn't want.

Last two seasons (each player listed for each season):

[aali34]

I trust Travis. The inner machinations of his mind are not understood upon initial observation or some b.s.

I don't like it but we'll see.

[Sothron]

I trust in Travis. So does my source FWIW. He isn't an idiot despite what a handful of trolls on here think.

I gave it a D. I like to think we could have gotten a first with lighter protections but again: everyone in the NBA knew we weren't keeping Cam. That seriously hurts his trade value for us.

[macdaddy]

Not sure how a late first is going to be more valuable in another trade than Cam himself. 

[NBASupes]

5 minutes ago, Sothron said:

I trust in Travis. So does my source FWIW. He isn't an idiot despite what a handful of trolls on here think.

I gave it a D. I like to think we could have gotten a first with lighter protections but again: everyone in the NBA knew we weren't keeping Cam. That seriously hurts his trade value for us.

He might not be an idiot but this was an idiotic trade as it stands

[AHF]

4 minutes ago, Sothron said:

I trust in Travis. So does my source FWIW. He isn't an idiot despite what a handful of trolls on here think.

I gave it a D. I like to think we could have gotten a first with lighter protections but again: everyone in the NBA knew we weren't keeping Cam. That seriously hurts his trade value for us.

I am definitely in the category of people hoping Travis has a plan to flip this with other players and/or picks for a big addition to the team.  In and of itself, I find this trade to be really painful in that trades upside for upside but Cam's upside is rare while mid-first picks generally don't amount to anything as the Hawks long history in this area of the draft attests.  At least TS is our one GM with big success in this area.

[REHawksFan]

I voted D because I don't like the deal but honestly, it's hard for me to rate because I can't imagine it being a stand alone trade. That just doesn't seem to make any sense to me. So I said D.  

I didn't pick F because there's no way any deal involving Cam could make me question how I view TS.  Cam is an inconsistent young player with loads of unrealized potential. He's on the edges.  A periphery guy.  The clock is ticking for his extension and he hasn't shown any ability to be a guy we can count on.  It's about like trading Jaylen Johnson.  Just not a deal I'm going to get crazy over one way or another.  So it's a D for me.   

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Not sure how a late first is going to be more valuable in another trade than Cam himself. 

1. There is no money attached to a pick

2. The pick will be on a rookie contract for 4 years

3. The other team does not want Cam since they have no interest in paying him because of cap implications and want a 1st round pick instead, they may also be ok with it not converting this year. 

[NBASupes]

If Travis comes away with Simmons and Sabonis. I am going to give him an A+. If he comes away with Kent Bazemore, yeah. He needs to be on the chopping block.

[JayBirdHawk]

I voted D...wish the protections were lighter.

Cam has been on the trade block since last season, Hawks have been seeking a 1st rounder was EVERY report.

My preference would have been to combine him with Gallo for 1 singularly upgrade.

[Marvin24Williams]

D. Im not high on Cam but that’s a garbage return. I would have rather let Cam play it out here

Edited January 13, 2022 by Marvin24Williams

[Final_quest]

Stats say Cam is not that good.  We are making way too much out of this.

Our own GM and every GM has spoken.  The only people who value Cam as a star are fans.  Even a team like OKC or Houston had a chance to get a “franchise cornerstone” and didn’t assess Cam as that valuable.  

[LucastheThird]

D. I want less protections on the pick but Cam couldn't really command anything higher. Assuming no follow up deal, I would have preferred to let Cam play out his contract and make a decision with him as a RFA. 

[SalvorMallow]

D is about right. The protections are pretty bad, but I think the team gets better in his absence. Interested to see how he progresses over the next few years, but unless he is significantly better next year, we should have no regrets for this deal because we would trade him anyways and get way less for an RFA SNT or letting him walk.