The Mega Super Rumor Thread (Part 2)

[Sothron]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Contract signing timing doesn't matter, most 1st round picks usually sign by SL unless involved in potential trades.

Eh, not so much the last part. You only have to wait 30 days after a rookie signs before they can be traded. Wiggins had this happen to him with Cleveland to Minnesota.

I fully expect Griffin to get the JJ treatment. He only turns 19 in August. He's very young. We traded for two bums that are getting to get the back up SG/SF minutes in addition to Bogi still being on the roster.

[terrell]

21 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Eh, not so much the last part. You only have to wait 30 days after a rookie signs before they can be traded. Wiggins had this happen to him with Cleveland to Minnesota.

I fully expect Griffin to get the JJ treatment. He only turns 19 in August. He's very young. We traded for two bums that are getting to get the back up SG/SF minutes in addition to Bogi still being on the roster.

Well at least they wont get blown by time and time again on defense like the former guy..

[AHF]

1 hour ago, Sothron said:

Eh, not so much the last part. You only have to wait 30 days after a rookie signs before they can be traded. Wiggins had this happen to him with Cleveland to Minnesota.

I fully expect Griffin to get the JJ treatment. He only turns 19 in August. He's very young. We traded for two bums that are getting to get the back up SG/SF minutes in addition to Bogi still being on the roster.

Hope that TS/Fields recognize the fact that the two guys we got are likely to not be in Atlanta next year and if Bogi goes down we have no threatening shooters at the SG position.  (Let's please not pretend like Justin is a threatening shooter.  He is more Tony Snell than Kyle Korver.)  Recognizing those things, we need to ensure that Griffin gets the developmental opportunities he needs to be ready to contribute on a limited basis in the playoffs.  Good teams do this with their talented rookies.  We didn't last year and paid for it when CC and JC were out or hobbled and our frontcourt couldn't score worth a ****.  Let's not repeat that mistake please, Nate.

[Threezus]

Im actually all for the Bledsoe thing if we can make it happen.  I think he pairs well with our group of guys at this point. 


Trae murray offense defense 1st unit

Bledsoe Bogi defense offense 2nd unit

or you got trae bogi for fire power if need be or bledsoe murray hunter Onyeka Capela when you 100% need that stop on defense.

[JayBirdHawk]

14 minutes ago, AHF said:

Hope that TS/Fields recognize the fact that the two guys we got are likely to not be in Atlanta next year and if Bogi goes down we have no threatening shooters at the SG position.  (Let's please not pretend like Justin is a threatening shooter.  He is more Tony Snell than Kyle Korver.)  Recognizing those things, we need to ensure that Griffin gets the developmental opportunities he needs to be ready to contribute on a limited basis in the playoffs.  Good teams do this with their talented rookies.  We didn't last year and paid for it when CC and JC were out or hobbled and our frontcourt couldn't score worth a ****.  Let's not repeat that mistake please, Nate.

This, this, this, more of this and ALL of this!

[Atlantaholic]

If Griffin gets the JJ treatment I'm done with this coaching staff.

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

This, this, this, more of this and ALL of this!

[GameTime]

2 hours ago, Kobie Drew said:

Legit question, I love aj griffin as a pick for us but I just have serious doubts of him getting playing time with us. Do you guys think he’ll be in the rotation or will he be treated how JJ was?

In all seriousness, the Holiday's and even Moe signings were totally Nate pickups. They are getting minutes (I pray Moe doesn't get too many more than Solo, but our PFs outside of Collins looks dire).

I see what management is doing. If Trae is brilliant enough on offense to generate a top 3 offense with Nate's playbook just surround Sir Ice with defenders and let Nate focus on that. You will go from one of the worst defenses in the NBA to a top 10 or at worst middle of the road defense while getting a little worse on offense. That is truly a formula for winning a lot of regular season games, but Nate's lack of offensive adjustments will hurt come playoff time.

[JayBirdHawk]

Nets maintaining they won't trade Kevin Durant unless it's for a package with a Brandon Ingram, Scottie Barnes type

Brooklyn privately maintains that it won’t trade Kevin Durant unless it gets a package in return that starts with a blue-chipper like New Orleans’ Brandon Ingram or Toronto’s Scottie Barnes … along with lots more attached to a theoretical deal than the absolute hauls San Antonio and Utah received in exchange for Murray and Gobert.

 

– via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

[kg01]

I'm so tired of all this.  Just trade the guy or keep the guy IDGAF.  As good as he is, he's not good enough to constantly be holding franchises hostage all the dayum time. 

Have any of his suggested personnel moves panned out?  Deandre Jordan?  Nash?  Kyrie?  Harden?  It's a resounding heyul nawl.  Not even a little bit.

You'd think that would be enough to convince him to stop tryna dictate things.  You don't know what TF you're doing, bro!

[Sothron]

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Nets maintaining they won't trade Kevin Durant unless it's for a package with a Brandon Ingram, Scottie Barnes type

Brooklyn privately maintains that it won’t trade Kevin Durant unless it gets a package in return that starts with a blue-chipper like New Orleans’ Brandon Ingram or Toronto’s Scottie Barnes … along with lots more attached to a theoretical deal than the absolute hauls San Antonio and Utah received in exchange for Murray and Gobert.

 

– via Marc Stein @ marcstein.substack.com

This isn't going to end well. You don't want a disgruntled star player stuck on your team when real games start. KD is a diva to put it mildly. I can totally see him tanking his play on purpose just like his buddy Harden did twice in order to force the Nets to take a deal to move him.

Problem for the Hawks is this is still holding us up because we still are in on Ayton and if Simmons becomes available we're in on that as well. 

[GameTime]

10 minutes ago, Sothron said:

This isn't going to end well. You don't want a disgruntled star player stuck on your team when real games start. KD is a diva to put it mildly. I can totally see him tanking his play on purpose just like his buddy Harden did twice in order to force the Nets to take a deal to move him.

Problem for the Hawks is this is still holding us up because we still are in on Ayton and if Simmons becomes available we're in on that as well. 

That is why we don't have nothing but Holiday signings!

Edited July 6, 2022 by GameTime

[kg01]

10 minutes ago, Sothron said:

This isn't going to end well. You don't want a disgruntled star player stuck on your team when real games start. KD is a diva to put it mildly. I can totally see him tanking his play on purpose just like his buddy Harden did twice in order to force the Nets to take a deal to move him.

Problem for the Hawks is this is still holding us up because we still are in on Ayton and if Simmons becomes available we're in on that as well. 

If I'm BKN, I let his arse sit.  They're already damaged and, if they cave to his demands, they're taking back a crap package anyways.

Stand up for yourself, for the first time ever when dealing with KD.  Got nothin to lose at this point.  No one in the league would blame ya. 

[bleachkit]

25 minutes ago, kg01 said:

If I'm BKN, I let his arse sit.  They're already damaged and, if they cave to his demands, they're taking back a crap package anyways.

Stand up for yourself, for the first time ever when dealing with KD.  Got nothin to lose at this point.  No one in the league would blame ya. 

They sacrificed so much for KD. Traded away Jared Allen and started Deandre Jordan just to appease him. 

[Peoriabird]

1 hour ago, Threezus said:

Im actually all for the Bledsoe thing if we can make it happen.  I think he pairs well with our group of guys at this point. 


Trae murray offense defense 1st unit

Bledsoe Bogi defense offense 2nd unit

or you got trae bogi for fire power if need be or bledsoe murray hunter Onyeka Capela when you 100% need that stop on defense.

I'm with @AHF No more bandaids! We have enough of them already so let's get to work and build this into a championship roster by developing these young guys period!

[JayBirdHawk]

Oh The Wiz!

 

 

 

[theheroatl]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Oh The Wiz!

 

 

 

Wizards doing their best to handicap the longest future possible.

[kg01]

39 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

They sacrificed so much for KD. Traded away Jared Allen and started Deandre Jordan just to appease him. 

But when you're at the bottom of a hole, at some point ya gotta stop diggin, right?

Charge it to the game.  Take the L and move on.

Friggin Deandre Jordan's 'done' a** still gettin checks too.

If he was a steak, he'd be a hockey puck 'cause he's well over done.

Edited July 6, 2022 by kg01

[Cwell]

37 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

They sacrificed so much for KD. Traded away Jared Allen and started Deandre Jordan just to appease him. 

Brooklyn sealed their fate when they traded away solid pieces in Allen, Levert and Prince for Harden. They became top heavy with a bunch of wtf after it. They def. get by Milwaukee without that trade.

[Hawkmoor]

1 hour ago, Sothron said:

This isn't going to end well. You don't want a disgruntled star player stuck on your team when real games start. KD is a diva to put it mildly. I can totally see him tanking his play on purpose just like his buddy Harden did twice in order to force the Nets to take a deal to move him.

Problem for the Hawks is this is still holding us up because we still are in on Ayton and if Simmons becomes available we're in on that as well. 

Kevin Durant a diva? I believe what his teammate, Draymond Green, said about him over how the fans and media feel about Durant.  Green had ZERO to gain after winning a chip without Durant to say that the Warriors wouldn't have won their 2017 and 2018 rings without Durant. ZERO to gain.  He has FIRST HAND knowledge.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/06/28/draymond-green-warriors-wouldnt-have-won-17-18-finals-without-kevin-durant

“I don’t think that team wins another championship if Kevin doesn’t come,” Green said. “Now you may say, ‘But y’all won the fourth one without Kevin.’ But there’s a gap in there where teams started to figure us out.”

 

 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Hawkmoor