Premium Member sturt Posted September 3, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: Oooomph! Sucks for Gallo big time! ....for the hated Ceeees, not so much! I'm going to say it out loud. The Cs are more significantly more vulnerable now. They traded some depth (Nesmith + Theis) to get Brogdon, who has played less than 60 games in 4 of his 5 seasons since his rookie year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 3, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, sturt said: I'm going to say it out loud. The Cs are more significantly more vulnerable now. They traded some depth (Nesmith + Theis) to get Brogdon, who has played less than 60 games in 4 of his 5 seasons since his rookie year. You make it sound like they lost a lot? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted September 3, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Diesel said: You make it sound like they lost a lot? I said what I said. When you're not a deep roster team... the differential between the talent of your first 8 guys and the rest of the roster is pretty significant... you're already a vulnerable one. They've become more vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDawg#8 Posted September 3, 2022 Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, sturt said: I said what I said. When you're not a deep roster team... the differential between the talent of your first 8 guys and the rest of the roster is pretty significant... you're already a vulnerable one. They've become more vulnerable. With losing Gallo, the C’s essentially added Brogdon and lost a few bench guys, but are basically running it back next year, which isn’t a good thing historically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted September 3, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: added Brogdon If it turns out that they got Brogdon for 80-ish games and the post-season, I think we all would agree, it's a better team even if they don't get anything from Gallo. If it turns out that they get Brogdon for 60-ish games, it all depends on timing and whether they get him for the post-season or not... that's my tipping point, me. They're essentially a little better if they get him for post-season, and a little behind 21-22's potency if not. So, anything less than that, they're worse off. And that's factoring in some slight regression for Horf.... if Horf finally hits a wall, then that's gonna have some more substantial effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted September 3, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said: basically running it back next year, which isn’t a good thing historically. I'd argue that all is severely dependent on the age of your lead dogs, tho. It's absolutely what you should do as best you can to the degree your lead dogs are younger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 6, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted September 6, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 They already were going to have to let go of either Isaiah Joe or Trevelin Queen. This move would seem to force off the roster Charles Bassey, the Western Kentucky product that had some thinking the Sixers got a 2nd round steal a couple of drafts ago... or less likely, Summer League phenom Paul Reed. I don't really want a project, but you could do worse than Bassey for that last roster slot. And incidentally... if Queen hits the market, you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who better defines "3 and D". He's not great at anything else, but on those two criteria, he's golden. Again, though, it's not the right fit for us, imo... this is the time in our trajectory for players who have some significant minutes under their belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 6, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: The 76ers are now one of the toughest teams in the league. They got Harrell and Tucker. Tucker is going to make a big difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted September 6, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Diesel said: The 76ers are now one of the toughest teams in the league. They got Harrell and Tucker. Tucker is going to make a big difference. Yeah i think so too. The biggest hole in our offseason was not getting tougher. We needed an elite wing and tough vets. We got one of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted September 6, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Diesel said: Tucker is going to make a big difference. Recency bias. He's old. He's bound to regress. Can't explain how he had the exceptional 21-22 that he did. I think he returns to the downward trajectory he'd been on. We'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 On 9/6/2022 at 7:43 PM, macdaddy said: Yeah i think so too. The biggest hole in our offseason was not getting tougher. We needed an elite wing and tough vets. We got one of those things. You never know, we may have gotten Both in one shot. DM is not going to let s--- slide. He's not the goody goody guy that we have drafted and looked for previously. He has a bit of an edge on him. He might be just the guy to teach our guys about protecting this house!! I believe our guys say it.. but they don't say it with their chest... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 Harrell only got 2.5 million per. By NBA standards, that's peanuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Wretch Posted September 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 hours ago, Diesel said: You never know, we may have gotten Both in one shot. DM is not going to let s--- slide. He's not the goody goody guy that we have drafted and looked for previously. He has a bit of an edge on him. He might be just the guy to teach our guys about protecting this house!! I believe our guys say it.. but they don't say it with their chest... Yep. Sometimes all it takes is that one guy to change the chemistry. With how the season ended, I think there's going to be some built up frustration and Murray is the fire that will light the fuse. Not to mention almost every player on this team has a point to prove. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 16 hours ago, Diesel said: You never know, we may have gotten Both in one shot. DM is not going to let s--- slide. He's not the goody goody guy that we have drafted and looked for previously. He has a bit of an edge on him. He might be just the guy to teach our guys about protecting this house!! I believe our guys say it.. but they don't say it with their chest... Yep, I think his attitude is gonna spill over into some guys who want to play tougher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted September 8, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Final_quest said: Yep, I think his attitude is gonna spill over into some guys who want to play tougher. I'm here for it. Just don't overdo it like Jimmy Butler did in Minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted September 9, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Knicks executive William Wesley: The Jazz wanted my wife, kids and grandkids for Donovan Mitchell ClutchPoints: Charles Barkley: World Wide Wes [Knicks executive William Wesley] said [the Jazz] ‘wanted my wife, they wanted my kids, they wanted my grandkids [for Donovan Mitchell]. They were just trying to rip somebody off. – via Twitter ClutchPointsApp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 33 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: Knicks executive William Wesley: The Jazz wanted my wife, kids and grandkids for Donovan Mitchell ClutchPoints: Charles Barkley: World Wide Wes [Knicks executive William Wesley] said [the Jazz] ‘wanted my wife, they wanted my kids, they wanted my grandkids [for Donovan Mitchell]. They were just trying to rip somebody off. – via Twitter ClutchPointsApp Danny STRainge is really freakin me out. He’s like Dr. Evil asking for a kajillion bajillion dollars . :14-:34 Tim Robbins Danny is a moron. It’s like that kid you try and trade baseball cards with but he’s so dang infuriating cuz he wants a yard but won’t give up an inch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted September 9, 2022 Moderators Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: Knicks executive William Wesley: The Jazz wanted my wife, kids and grandkids for Donovan Mitchell ClutchPoints: Charles Barkley: World Wide Wes [Knicks executive William Wesley] said [the Jazz] ‘wanted my wife, they wanted my kids, they wanted my grandkids [for Donovan Mitchell]. They were just trying to rip somebody off. – via Twitter ClutchPointsApp well why didn't the rip off the Cavs then. Cavs didn't give up that much honestly. I know i know picks right? they're spread out. I think it was a great move. Of course the Cavs are a better team than the knicks so it made more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 9, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, macdaddy said: well why didn't the rip off the Cavs then. Cavs didn't give up that much honestly. I know i know picks right? they're spread out. I think it was a great move. Of course the Cavs are a better team than the knicks so it made more sense. Several picks mean a lot. Even if they are mid first, it still has value. What was JC a 20th pick? But on top of that, people don't like him but Sexton is no slouch. neither is Markennen. Utah made off like bandits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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