Official Game Thread: Nuggets at Hawks

[Final_quest]

13 minutes ago, AtLaS said:

I'm sure I could go dig up many stars on court +/- from their rookie/soph years during a rebuild and would find similar results. 

Bad argument.

He is stuck on that bad argument.

[MarylandHawk]

11 hours ago, StonedDogs said:

Trae is your superstar bro. Supposed teams engine. The one with the national nickname. The one who only him, took you to the ECF. Talking about his weaknesses is not about proving to be right. This just comes with the territory of being the face and future of the organization. Do you see it ending with a ring or are you seeing a team that's constantly making trades and changing coaches to fit his gameplay? 

I do see it ending in a ring. He is our best chance in franchise history to get one.  He is also fun to watch all the way there. 

[MarylandHawk]

3 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Ya this. A lotta posters are critical about Trae but I’m not even sure they are our fans to be honest. Not naming names but folks from FakeGM do come here, pretend to be Hawks fans and play devil’s advocate and say we aren’t good enough even on the nights that we dominate. 
 

My advice: Skim through the BS. 
 

I tend to gravitate to posters who bring some light to topics of actually know WTF they are talking about. 
 

Some of the other posters could again be Trae haters following us from other sites and just being sad individuals who made up a screen name here at squawk. 
 

Some Monday morning QB’s and others not genuine.

 

Trae is a superstar. We can still nitpickhis game but at least do it on a night where he isn’t teaching a masterclass on the court we his SAVANT passing. The best since Magic Johnson.

I think that is a great approach. 

[JayBirdHawk]

I still don't understand this. Neither Clint nor Smart have ever been considered the 'best players' on their teams. The opposing team isn't game planning a defensive philosophy to stop any of these guys. This is so confusing.

 

1 hour ago, benhillboy said:

I didn’t mean to strike a chord @marco102. I apologize.

 

Let’s try a starer in Clint who plays with the same players and has about half of Trae’s usage. Maybe you’ll like that on/ off comparison:

 

Or maybe you’d prefer another PG in Marcus Smart’s since he’s been a starter. Again, about half of Traes usage.

 



 

How someone could get upset at someone presenting stats I can’t understand. Haliburton’s and SGA’s on/ off are much worse than Trae’s for reasons as obvious as Delon’s skewed values. You think I would lash out at someone for highlighting it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

This. 

 

Let me know when they are able to string at least 10 consecutive games like this together. Then it becomes an eyebrow raiser

 

1 hour ago, marco102 said:

How can you use a 1 game sample size with a bad defensive team to make these conclusions?  

 

We are still making our adjustments with a lot of new pieces and offensive roles. Boston took 44 games before getting it together last year. What if they had shipped Tatum or Brown off because it hadn't worked the past two seasons? 

 

It's way too early to be drawing these conclusions in Trae's overall career and for this season. 

 

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A 1 game sample of 'look we are better' means squat in an 82 game 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[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

On 12/2/2022 at 8:08 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

That pass is what we miss from Bogi as well

 

[StonedDogs]

50 minutes ago, MarylandHawk said:

I do see it ending in a ring. He is our best chance in franchise history to get one.  He is also fun to watch all the way there. 

I thinkg he's fun to watch too especially in those summer pick up games with other nba players and the all star game. 

Nique was also fun to watch. 

The way I see it, our window is three years with Trae. By 27 and 28 he will not have that explosive speed he has now. Games wear down on you and he is not a physical specimen like a Jordan or Lebron. And he's not a sniper like Curry or Miller. 

So within those three years my non basketball intellect tells me that we will certainly have another coach, players will be traded and brought here and we will continue saying the team needs time to adjust to one another.. 

[marco102]

12 minutes ago, StonedDogs said:

I thinkg he's fun to watch too especially in those summer pick up games with other nba players and the all star game. 

Nique was also fun to watch. 

The way I see it, our window is three years with Trae. By 27 and 28 he will not have that explosive speed he has now. Games wear down on you and he is not a physical specimen like a Jordan or Lebron. And he's not a sniper like Curry or Miller. 

So within those three years my non basketball intellect tells me that we will certainly have another coach, players will be traded and brought here and we will continue saying the team needs time to adjust to one another.. 

You do realize Trae isn't explosive. He is elite at decelerating and accelerating which is how he creates space. He also has a tight handle. 

If explosiveness is your concern, I hope you aren't a fan of Ja Morant.

Also, what players do you know who get worst in their prime years of 27 or 28? Trae is a skilled player his game is not predicated on his athletiscm alone.

[Final_quest]

59 minutes ago, StonedDogs said:

I thinkg he's fun to watch too especially in those summer pick up games with other nba players and the all star game. 

Nique was also fun to watch. 

The way I see it, our window is three years with Trae. By 27 and 28 he will not have that explosive speed he has now. Games wear down on you and he is not a physical specimen like a Jordan or Lebron. And he's not a sniper like Curry or Miller. 

So within those three years my non basketball intellect tells me that we will certainly have another coach, players will be traded and brought here and we will continue saying the team needs time to adjust to one another.. 

So you basically joined this site to hate on Trae?  Not really interested in more of that.  

[StonedDogs]

2 hours ago, marco102 said:

You do realize Trae isn't explosive. He is elite at decelerating and accelerating which is how he creates space. He also has a tight handle. 

If explosiveness is your concern, I hope you aren't a fan of Ja Morant.

Also, what players do you know who get worst in their prime years of 27 or 28? Trae is a skilled player his game is not predicated on his athletiscm alone.

Lets win next Hawks

[marco102]

3 minutes ago, StonedDogs said:

Lets win next Hawks

What players do you know who get worst at 27 and 28?

[Bonkers]

U Trae Young fans look dumb as hell in this thread now

 

Wow lol

[terrell]

37 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

U Trae Young fans look dumb as hell in this thread now

 

Wow lol

And they called me all kinds of names for "insinuating" that he'd pull some shit like this.. smfh

[Bonkers]

1 minute ago, terrell said:

And they called me all kinds of names for "insinuating" that he'd pull some shit like this.. smfh

I'm gonna post this every time one of these Trae stans has some slick shit t say to me 

 

Pay attention to the word "Key Personnel"

 

 

Edited December 4, 2022 by Bonkers

[MarylandHawk]

1 hour ago, Bonkers said:

I'm gonna post this every time one of these Trae stans has some slick shit t say to me 

 

Pay attention to the word "Key Personnel"

 

 

Yall probably the same folks that wanted Luka. 

[MarylandHawk]

1 hour ago, Bonkers said:

I'm gonna post this every time one of these Trae stans has some slick shit t say to me 

 

Pay attention to the word "Key Personnel"

 

 

Shams has been trying to trade John for 3 years now. Since he can’t do that, he wants to stir up some trae crap. 

[JayBirdHawk]

Doesn't matter as he has clearly stated he is NOT a Trae Young fan.

 

7 minutes ago, MarylandHawk said:

Yall probably the same folks that wanted Luka. 

 

 

 

 

[Diesel]

2 hours ago, terrell said:

And they called me all kinds of names for "insinuating" that he'd pull some shit like this.. smfh

[StonedDogs]

6 hours ago, Final_quest said:

So you basically joined this site to hate on Trae?  Not really interested in more of that.  

Geez, I see you small core of really dont like new users. You definitely hate a critique if it comes to your favorite player. I didn't like like Josh Smith, Dennis, Marvin, coach woodson, all of the GMs but Im still a fan of the team. I bet you were feeling yourself though with that post. You even got a few trophies, still trying to figure it out. I wont mention Trae name from here on out Lord Hawk users 

[Final_quest]

5 hours ago, StonedDogs said:

Geez, I see you small core of really dont like new users. You definitely hate a critique if it comes to your favorite player. I didn't like like Josh Smith, Dennis, Marvin, coach woodson, all of the GMs but Im still a fan of the team. I bet you were feeling yourself though with that post. You even got a few trophies, still trying to figure it out. I wont mention Trae name from here on out Lord Hawk users 

I really don’t need an ego boost.  A lot of long term regulars on here.  Most new people are welcomed.
 

Someone new who comes in attacking a player and others without much positive to say needs to be called out.  You are coming across like a troll.  Read @Alf’s posts as a new user and compare with yours.