Popular Post JTB Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 You know after years of Tony Resseler saying he’s not afraid of the luxury tax…when it came down to him proving it, he failed the whole organization and team. He didn’t even take a chance on the team. I thought as a hawks fan once we heard an owner of our favorite team publicly putting it out there that he’d do what’s best for the team even if that meant paying luxury tax then I thought that’s what we’ll get but I’ll never be fooled by that garbage again. Credit @JayBirdHawk …she was the one poster I recall that kept saying “we’ll see” Tony just learned what to say to the media and knew hawk fans would listen to it and buy into it due to the history of poor ownership..… unfortunately Tony can be added to the list of failed Hawks owners. At this point at least to me he’s a compulsive liar! He just easily bent the truth to keep the belief strong because he wasn’t facing the action of proving himself. I saw someone compare Tony Resseler to Jerry Jones in terms of trying to run things for betterment of their franchise but see there’s a difference even there …Jerry loves his cowboys and always has similar to Dr. Buss for the Lakers. Sometimes they make bad mistakes but Money is no object for their franchises. Tony Resseler cannot be mentioned in the same breath as those two. He don’t have the same passion for Atlanta and that’s unfortunate. At least with the ASG you KNEW they were cheap. Wasn’t no setup or public interviews of bullshit like Tony has done……Gearon and those guys made it known they were cheap asses! Didn’t sugarcoat a thing!….and looking back at it now , while the ASG definitely frustrated me and I’m sure many others…..I can at least say that I appreciate the honesty! A few of our insider folks once said that Hawks org are lurkers here on the Squawk. Well I sure hope someone close to Resseler see this so maybe he sells the team to a passionate Atlanta owner. He’s not True to Atlanta. This is nothing but another investment to him. We talk so much about Trae, Mcmillian, Collins, Schlenk, Fields and others but the guy who sits at the top should be talked about more. Fire Mcmillian is alive and well ….when will it be time for the sale the team Resseler movement to start ??? 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post MarylandHawk Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Nope. Disagree. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) No lies detected. I hated the A$G but atleast you knew what they were. Current guy is playing us. I would be curious to hear your thoughts considering you disagree, @MarylandHawk. Not arguing, just interested. Hey, you already convinced me to change my mind on Bol. Maybe you can go 2-for-2. Edited January 4, 2023 by kg01 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post JayBirdHawk Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 I'm dissapointed, but not ready to go that far.....YET! How we come out on the other side of this a year from now will tell me a lot. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spud2nique Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 When I go to sleep tonight thinking about which ownership of ours was $hittier…. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 I remember Gearon Sr. Let it be known that Belkin wanted to run the team "On the Cheap". Then after Belkin was gone, the ASG put caps on how much they would spend. BK did a work getting players in here. I think Ressler and the ASG are the same. Ressler has his own Caps on how much he will spend. If Giannis said he was coming to the Hawks, Ressler would open up his purse. but without that, we're under the LT like a lottery team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 You must have not been around for ASG. Ressler is a million times better than them. It's not even close. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 A peak into the future that nobody is talking about. Either we have a big trade like Hunter or Cap or JC is traded away... or DJM won't get money (max or close to max) from us. and one of those others still may get traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTB Posted January 4, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, NBASupes said: You must have not been around for ASG. Ressler is a million times better than them. It's not even close. Disagree. All I see is public lies to get asses in seats which he has done successfully . Oh and I was around with ASG trust me I just knew not to expect anything. With Ressler I once had high expectations but he’s a joke and had me believing in him. If he’s any better than the ASG it’s only slightly. But who cares…being better than the ASG isn’t a real accomplishment because it shouldn’t be that tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post Sothron Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 This is difficult. Ressler's group is far more invested in making the Hawks a real show so in that sense they are putting in money that A$G never did. I do think Ressler if he lets basketball people make decisions and is willing to pay the luxury tax would easily be far superior to those idiots. A$G will forever burn in hell for me because they sold the Thrashers. I love hockey so does Mrs. Sothron. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JeffS17 Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 I’m on the Ressler hate train right now but I cant go that far lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkster911 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 We need a legit coach. Too much talent on this team. Remember when Shaq played for the Lakers and he wanted a real coach. Shaq visited Phil Jackson’s lake house and swam across the the middle of the lake for a damn wooden log. Phil Jackson wanted Shaq to know that he will need to work his tail off if he wanted Phil to be his coach. We need a coach to inspire Young, and someone who can fix our offense. Or we can be the picture of BK and the old ownership. All started with the Kevin Huerter trade. The next 1-2 Hawk’s moves will dictate a fire sale. The time is ticking for our new GM. Make it right ownership. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NBASupes Posted January 4, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, JTB said: Disagree. All I see is public lies to get asses in seats which he has done successfully . Oh and I was around with ASG trust me I just knew not to expect anything. With Ressler I once had high expectations but he’s a joke and had me believing in him. If he’s any better than the ASG it’s only slightly. But who cares…being better than the ASG isn’t a real accomplishment because it shouldn’t be that tough. Ya'll way too emotional about this season and blinded by how awful ASG was. I mean every iteration too. They were never on the same page. In legal letigation for the first three years They weren't any good at all 2nd iteration was racist af Delusional af Treated staff horrendously Constantly cut money on operations to extreme degrees. The in game experience was Houston Rockets bad. Ressler makes it a great experience if you like or dislike the Hawks. Many people who attend Hawks games do it as a social gathering these days. Its so much better, it's not even close. Did yall even have Ana for Tony before the Kevin trade on here? I don't recall any. We always had Ana for ASG, especially AHF and me. I had contacts within the working staff then, no one liked any of the owners. They were there just to do a job. People actually like Tony and a lot. Edited January 4, 2023 by NBASupes 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Popular Post sturt Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said: that far Yeah. That's purty damn far. I mean, talk about your chronological cognitive dissonance. This is a kind of purgatory. That was an outright hell. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Popular Post AHF Posted January 4, 2023 Moderators Popular Post Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 It sounds like if Ressler had said something like "We aren't in a position to go into the luxury tax now but I think there will come a day when we do. I'll be excited to share that with the fan base when we do so but until then we are going to build the best team possible without going into the tax" then there would be no question that Ressler is 100x better than the ASG. The ASG represent arguably the worst owners in the history of sports. They were cheap. They tried multiple hostile takeovers. Their actions resulted in literal spending limits for the team which may be the only time in sports history we've seen that. They lied. But you prefer them because their lies were more obvious? That is only because they were obviously absolute garbage. I'd say that most of what Ressler has done has been positive. He wasn't willing to go into the tax this year and that resulted in the terrible (from a basketball perspective certainly) Huerter trade but that is such small potatoes compared to what we went through with the ASG. This is an easy slam dunk for me to call Ressler miles better than the ASG even if I stipulate that Ressler made his statement about being willing to go into the tax for the right team in bad faith. It is just not even a question for me because the ASG was absolute misery as an ownership group. Ressler has diminished himself somewhat in my mind as it has come out how he has been involved in basketball decisions and my philosophy is that a good owner hires basketball people and lets them run the team and fires them when that owner no longer has confidence in them. One characteristic of a bad owner is meddling and overriding the basketball people. But the ASG went to crazy and unprecedented lengths impacting the basketball side of things (spending limits, leaking Ferry's comments out of context to damage the team's reputation, suing co-owners to stop the team from making moves, etc.). Ressler to me has fallen from closer to what I would consider a model owner (where I thought he let TS make all the calls and was willing to pay the tax to compete) to what I would consider more middle of the pack as we see many of the behaviors that he has exhibited in other owners. That is still worlds better than the ASG. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member BangHolman Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Hard disagree. Almost laughable. Edit: Not directly Hawks related, but the ASG also sold the NHL team to Canada and still didn't invest more in the Hawks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 2 hours ago, NBASupes said: Ya'll way too emotional … just ironic is all. Yes, all these years.. we’ve been emotional.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member MarylandHawk Posted January 4, 2023 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 10 hours ago, kg01 said: No lies detected. I hated the A$G but atleast you knew what they were. Current guy is playing us. I would be curious to hear your thoughts considering you disagree, @MarylandHawk. Not arguing, just interested. Hey, you already convinced me to change my mind on Bol. Maybe you can go 2-for-2. Well here goes. The ASG were constantly bickering with each other struggling for power from the beginning of their term till the end. Their top aim was mediocrity and no one was willing to take real risks to get us into championship contention. There was never really one voice. Then comes Ressler who made a great decision to bring in Schlenk, who in my opinion, did real GM work to get this team into the possibility of contention. He worked miracles in creating draft capital when we had the likes of Schröder, Howard, Prince, etc. Ressler sat back and let him do what he needed to do. Meanwhile, everywhere Ressler could make a difference with his money, he did. New arena, training facility, promotions and events, paid players top dollars and community involvement. All of which blew ASG out of the water. Patience has been his only issue and it seems like he is ready to push more than Schlenk think we need to right now. As a fan, I don’t necessarily disagree with that. It is just a matter of does he really know what it takes at this point. We shall see. I really do think it was Schlenk who pushed for the Huerter trade to balance the books and not Resseler. But that was only done in response to Nick and Fields and Trae pushing for Murray. We gave up a little too much for Schlenk’s value chart, so he balanced it with the Huerter trade. We will see at this years trade dead line if that is a true assessment. If Tony doesn’t mind going into the tax, we will beef up the team to compete this year. Oh and we went farther into contention and have been way more exciting to watch than ever before. There it is my friend… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 It's really desperate thinking to wish for the ASG days. Have ya'll looked at the thread when we traded Huerter? It read like ding dong the witch is dead, get your soft ass out of here. We got a gritty tough two way player at the 2 now. A couple people balked at the trade. We were a low lottery team, missed the bubble, 14th out of 15 in the ECF. Despite being among the worst teams in the league they traded for Capela and signed Bogi and Gallo. Spent as much money as he could to accelerate growth. Now ya'll are screaming like toddlers that he doesn't care about winning and runs things on the cheap. I think showing a little bit of patience going into the luxury tax is potentially wise. He seems really passionate, and if Capela, Bogi, and Hunter would have been more healthy we'd probably be winning at 60% or higher. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 ASG was racist AF. They win. Then again, this ownership group ain’t done yet. ASG - F W(res(s)ler’s - NC (not complete) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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