Gray Mule Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 When I think of the Hawk's future the foremost thing that comes to mind are our very talented youth. Example: In our last game of the season our starting center was out. Our #2 center was out. Our #3 center started and was backed up by our #4 center, a very inexperienced rookie who missed most of this season with injuries. He may end up being a PF and not a center. Where have we heard this before? Kobe Bufkin has looked like a keeper. AJ Griffin has hardly played this season. We've heard rumors that Atlanta has been offered a 1st round pick for him. He's still very, very young and talented. Whatever happens in this summer's draft, we hope to obtain a useable big man. Some end of the bench players will either be let go or traded. Hawks can have just so many players and no more. Two or three two-way Skyhawks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said: Can you explain the bolded further. Murray is making $18 mil, BI is making $33 mil this season. Murray signed a max extension which was 140% of his existing $18 mil. So next season starts at $25 million. BI is making $36 mil next season. He not taking $25 million. Max 1st year salary with $141 million Salary Cap. 25% Max $35.2 mil, 30% Max $42.3 mil, 35% max $49.35 How much are the Hawks willing to pay? A lot more than what Murray is making. This is a big part of the reason for the attraction of this deal. His upcoming contract is why Atlanta wanted significantly more from NO than they would for a Murphy package or Jones package who they really coveted. They wanted Herb Jones. As far as Dyson Daniels, he was someone mentioned when it was Herb Jones or Murphy but it doesn't seem like he's been mention of late. NO is more open to trading picks than Daniels. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted April 15 Admin Report Share Posted April 15 Ingram is also a bad defender … that does not improve the team. We need two way players … our D is bad enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 15 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 15 3 hours ago, NBASupes said: NO is more open to trading picks than Daniels. Hawks need players that can help immediately vs picks where we won't see actualized oncourt results for several years.....see Huerter, Kevin...already 2 years and counting. Unless we are able to parlay those pick for additional help. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShooterSays Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 I don’t think BI has played at all in the 4th of this play-in game. Zion is out hurt too and BI is still riding the bench. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REHawksFan Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 5 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: I don’t think BI has played at all in the 4th of this play-in game. Zion is out hurt too and BI is still riding the bench. Yikes. Certainly seems like BI is on the outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 It's obvious why they want OO. Damn, it's obvious. He would fit them a lot more than he fits us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 17 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, ShooterSays said: I don’t think BI has played at all in the 4th of this play-in game. Zion is out hurt too and BI is still riding the bench. Yikes. 13 minutes ago, REHawksFan said: Certainly seems like BI is on the outs I think BI is just back from an injury. Missed the last 12 games before playing in the last regular season game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I think BI is just back from an injury. Missed the last 12 games before playing in the last regular season game. His body language wasn’t great. Anyway, is BI the answer? I don’t think so. We need a complete defensive overall. Now Alvarado? Sure I’ll take him in a heartbeat Alvarado Murphy and Jones for half our roster… come on griff Edited April 17 by theheroatl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 Just now, theheroatl said: His body language wasn’t great. Anyway, is BI the answer? I don’t think so. We need a complete defensive overall. Now Alvarado? Sure I’ll take him in a heartbeat We don't have the personnel for GTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 17 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: I think BI is just back from an injury. Missed the last 12 games before playing in the last regular season game. I tuned out. Were they just sitting him to play for the 9/10 game? I saw Zion play well then do what I expect him to continue doing (get hurt). 1 minute ago, theheroatl said: Now Alvarado? Sure I’ll take him in a heartbeat Aw, you're just tryna get on my good side. Just now, NBASupes said: We don't have the personnel for GTA. Not enough overall size? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member JayBirdHawk Posted April 17 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, theheroatl said: His body language wasn’t great. Anyway, is BI the answer? I don’t think so. We need a complete defensive overall. Now Alvarado? Sure I’ll take him in a heartbeat Alvarado Murphy and Jones for half our roster… come on griff His body language wasn't great when he played USA FIBA - he complained/struggled without the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheroatl Posted April 17 Report Share Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said: His body language wasn't great when he played USA FIBA - he complained/struggled without the ball. Yeah there is something to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 Hey, one-a yall get @Sothron on the phone. Where you at, my dude? Hope all is well. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 On 4/16/2024 at 9:45 PM, kg01 said: I tuned out. Were they just sitting him to play for the 9/10 game? I saw Zion play well then do what I expect him to continue doing (get hurt). Aw, you're just tryna get on my good side. Not enough overall size? Not enough defensive talent. He's one of those needs a defensive personnel guys so he can fully play his style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 18 Author Moderators Report Share Posted April 18 20 minutes ago, NBASupes said: Not enough defensive talent. He's one of those needs a defensive personnel guys so he can fully play his style. There is a lot of defensive talent on the wing in NO. Can't ask for much better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted April 18 Moderators Report Share Posted April 18 I'm not believing we can't lure Herb Jones. Nola wants OO and they desperately need DJ. We offer them DJ/OO/Bruno for Herb/BI. Takes BI off their hands. I say we don't even extend him but just let him play out next year. At the end of the day we'll still have Herb and a ton of cap space once BI comes off. Combine that move with getting nic claxton or someone and we're cooking. Granted both of these are probably impossible but i can dream. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KB21 Posted April 18 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 18 17 minutes ago, macdaddy said: I'm not believing we can't lure Herb Jones. Nola wants OO and they desperately need DJ. We offer them DJ/OO/Bruno for Herb/BI. Takes BI off their hands. I say we don't even extend him but just let him play out next year. At the end of the day we'll still have Herb and a ton of cap space once BI comes off. Combine that move with getting nic claxton or someone and we're cooking. Granted both of these are probably impossible but i can dream. I need more than that. We should at least get a 1st for including OO, and another pick for taking Ingram off their hands. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 24 minutes ago, KB21 said: I need more than that. We should at least get a 1st for including OO, and another pick for taking Ingram off their hands. Yeah, there's a deal there that helps both sides imho. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBASupes Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 24 minutes ago, KB21 said: I need more than that. We should at least get a 1st for including OO, and another pick for taking Ingram off their hands. I honestly want 3 1sts but that's not happening. Murray contract is infinitely better and BI is gonna get PAID 44 minutes ago, macdaddy said: I'm not believing we can't lure Herb Jones. Nola wants OO and they desperately need DJ. We offer them DJ/OO/Bruno for Herb/BI. Takes BI off their hands. I say we don't even extend him but just let him play out next year. At the end of the day we'll still have Herb and a ton of cap space once BI comes off. Combine that move with getting nic claxton or someone and we're cooking. Granted both of these are probably impossible but i can dream. I hope we can land Jones. He's a better fit than BI and a thousand times cheaper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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