Official Game Thread: Hawks at Kings

[NBASupes]

20 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Some of this is true.  Sabonis is listed as 6'10, 240.    OO is 6'8, 235.  To me, the difference in height doesn't make the most difference.   It's weight that plays a bigger role.   I don't get how OO can play strong against a guy like Giannis  6'11, 242... but he gets manhandled by Sabonis. 

It's not all size.  I think it's simply style of play.   Sabonis came out last night and he was determined to be a Old School rough and tumble big man when he saw OO.   That's the style clash that OO loses.   Guys who can get rough with him.  I'm not calling him Sawft but the Old School guys push him around in the low post.   CC, not as much because CC came up on the tail end of some of those old school guys.  I think it is much less about size and more about adapting to a certain type of playing style.   Maybe OO needs to put on 20 lbs of Muscle and learn to Bang like Bam.  But right now, he is positionless.   He's not skilled enough to be a PF and he's too limited to be a C.  He need to get into the weight room and start training with some old school guys. 

 

 

Giannis wants to run through you, Sabonis wants to bang you. One tires you out while the other just shows he's superior. Because OO is a great specimen, he does well against Giannis but Sabonis just bangs, you know OO wants to bang back and that's a foul 

[JayBirdHawk]

19 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

you know OO wants to bang back and that's a foul 

Very true.

[Diesel]

Just listened to Coach Brown and Sabonis' press conference...

Going to HB was a premeditated plan.  Once they saw that it worked, they kept going to HB.  I think Coach Snyder has to realize that teams are depending on Bey to be out there so that they can take advantage of his porous defense.  These dude turned back the clock on us and got 32 points with 50% shooting.  Coach Brown said, "Down the stretch, we went to him 4 or 5 times in a row to slow the other team's comeback".   Come on Bey.. Do something. 

Well, it wasn't all Bey...

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022300613&PlayerID=203084&RangeType=0&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612758&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

[terrell]

4 hours ago, Diesel said:

OO fouled out.   Most of those fouls were shooting fouls.   As I was watching, I was thinking, if OO didn't foul these dudes.. and if he didn't just escort Sabonis to the front of the rim and let him get what.. 22 rebounds... we may have made this game more competitive.   Every foul was a foul created because he gave up too much position.  Do they not teach boxing out anymore? Do they not teach fighting for position before the ball goes up.   When OO came into the game, Sabonis said in his heart... There goes my meal ticket.  OO's very first defensive exchange of the game was Sabonis calling for the ball on the right block and scoring over OO in the low post.  I see his play and I'm so ashamed.   I wanted this dude to be much better.  I thought that as he got better, he would replace CC and CC would come off the bench as a top reserve.   But right now, we can't run that plan.  CC still does a lot of things better.    Quin is showing loyalty by letting OO finish games.  But it's not moving the needle.  He still Jumps at head fakes. 

I know he's a sacred cow around here... but he's either going to be a BU or a Center that gets taken advantage of.  Freaking JaVale McGee was doing rim pull ups on us.   IF OO can sweeten a trade package and get us a good player..  ship him out. 

 

I doubt he has much value around the league. Just like most of our players.. smh

[NBASupes]

2 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Just listened to Coach Brown and Sabonis' press conference...

Going to HB was a premeditated plan.  Once they saw that it worked, they kept going to HB.  I think Coach Snyder has to realize that teams are depending on Bey to be out there so that they can take advantage of his porous defense.  These dude turned back the clock on us and got 32 points with 50% shooting.  Coach Brown said, "Down the stretch, we went to him 4 or 5 times in a row to slow the other team's comeback".   Come on Bey.. Do something. 

Well, it wasn't all Bey...

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022300613&PlayerID=203084&RangeType=0&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612758&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

Bey is an excellent backup but he's not a starter at all and it's becoming a negative. He was a plus player for us as a backup 

[kg01]

14 minutes ago, terrell said:

I doubt he has much value around the league. Just like most of our players.. smh

I read rumors that BOS wanted him, which I found odd.  But, then again, he'd probably have to do less for them and it'd be a better fit.  So our old nemesis of poor roster building shows its ugly head again.  Sad-face. 

[Packfill]

I don't understand what is going on with AJ that he can't get 15 minutes in a game like this.  No Trae, no Hunter, down early so seems like a good time to get him 15 minutes of run.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

24 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Just listened to Coach Brown and Sabonis' press conference...

Going to HB was a premeditated plan.  Once they saw that it worked, they kept going to HB.  I think Coach Snyder has to realize that teams are depending on Bey to be out there so that they can take advantage of his porous defense.  These dude turned back the clock on us and got 32 points with 50% shooting.  Coach Brown said, "Down the stretch, we went to him 4 or 5 times in a row to slow the other team's comeback".   Come on Bey.. Do something. 

Well, it wasn't all Bey...

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=FGM&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022300613&PlayerID=203084&RangeType=0&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612758&flag=3&sct=plot&section=game

I think every game this season has had some unexpected player tear us a new one. 

[Sothron]

Just now, JayBirdHawk said:

I think every game this season has had some unexpected player tear us a new one. 

it has honestly been this way since the ECF run. 

[kg01]

3 minutes ago, Packfill said:

I don't understand what is going on with AJ that he can't get 15 minutes in a game like this.  No Trae, no Hunter, down early so seems like a good time to get him 15 minutes of run.

 

We never fully got rid of iRobot.  SkyNet has become sentient so its like Nate never left.  He just shifted from JJ to AJ due to a glitch.

Seriously tho, we shld be playing Lundy and AJ instead of meth-Bogi.

It pains me to say because meth makes me smile on the court.... wait, that makes me sound like an addict.  Ah well, it's out there now. 

[Gray Mule]

Bey came to Atlanta, expecting a starting spot and a big, maximum payday next season.  I wonder what he expects now?  Seems to me that he's proven that he's neither a proven starter nor a maximum payroll player.

He does have value.  He's a good bench player.  He's tough.  Not afraid to get inside and fight.  

[JayBirdHawk]

14 hours ago, Nash said:

KAT at 60pts with 10 3's, 9:30 before end. That's the player we need at 5

His coach wasn't thrilled though:

the timberwolves coach was NOT PLEASED with KAT trying to score a billion points. KAT got 60. Coach calls him 'immature' post-game. Was also subbing out KAT for defense at the end of the game and apparently KAT had some dirty looks on his face.

[JayBirdHawk]

35 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

Bey came to Atlanta, expecting a starting spot....

I don't think so.

[kg01]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

His coach wasn't thrilled though:

the timberwolves coach was NOT PLEASED with KAT trying to score a billion points. KAT got 60. Coach calls him 'immature' post-game. Was also subbing out KAT for defense at the end of the game and apparently KAT had some dirty looks on his face.

What the fng heyul?  They lost?  I didn't even check the score.  I was sure they'd won.  That's terrible and his coach is right.  No way they're supposed to lose to CHA.  Him tryna get-hizz is probably why they lost.

Anyway, you know what I'm expecting from MIN this year... playoff, flame-out.  Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.

Don't tell @Sothron.... 

[Diesel]

11 minutes ago, kg01 said:

playoff, flame-out. 

1st round Playoff, Flame-out. 

Come on home Big KAT!!

 

[warcore]

57 minutes ago, kg01 said:

It pains me to say because meth makes me smile on the court.... wait, that makes me sound like an addict.  Ah well, it's out there now. 

we all refer to you as a "user".... the above has become an offensive term. 

And it's ok cagey, we love you no matter how bad a user you are. 

[NBASupes]

50 minutes ago, kg01 said:

What the fng heyul?  They lost?  I didn't even check the score.  I was sure they'd won.  That's terrible and his coach is right.  No way they're supposed to lose to CHA.  Him tryna get-hizz is probably why they lost.

Anyway, you know what I'm expecting from MIN this year... playoff, flame-out.  Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.

Don't tell @Sothron.... 

He was horrendously bad on D. That said, he was on fire offensively. The Wolves wasn't taking this game seriously at all. 

[kg01]

16 minutes ago, warcore said:

we all refer to you as a "user".... the above has become an offensive term. 

And it's ok cagey, we love you no matter how bad a user you are. 

Speak my truth, warc.  

[Nash]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

His coach wasn't thrilled though:

the timberwolves coach was NOT PLEASED with KAT trying to score a billion points. KAT got 60. Coach calls him 'immature' post-game. Was also subbing out KAT for defense at the end of the game and apparently KAT had some dirty looks on his face.

I wish that the hate towards him rises and they finally trade him to Hawks ideally for peanuts. Take Capela, Bey and second round pick and close the deal. Get rid of an immature player that can't score 70 against Hornets on 70%FG and can't hit 10 3's on 80% efficiency. Shame on KAT and victory lap for Chris Finch 

[Sothron]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

What the fng heyul?  They lost?  I didn't even check the score.  I was sure they'd won.  That's terrible and his coach is right.  No way they're supposed to lose to CHA.  Him tryna get-hizz is probably why they lost.

Anyway, you know what I'm expecting from MIN this year... playoff, flame-out.  Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.

Don't tell @Sothron.... 

I watched the game. KAT was incredible. No one else really showed up. Ant was sick going into the game and it showed. Blaming KAT for losing that game is crazy. He was the only reason they lead practically the entire game until late in the 4th.