Official Game Thread: Bucks at Hawks

[TheNorthCydeRises]

7 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I don't about that, he just stuck to his rotations and honestly, should have rode the hot hand with Bruno

That is why he sabotaged the game. Quinn never goes with the hot hand. He always sticks to his rotations. And that's a big problem when you have an undersized team. Play Bruno at the four. Play Clint at the five. Stay big the rest of the game. He has to coach by the feel of the game. Why doesn't he do that? 

Vit gave us nothing on both ends of the floor. Keep playing the guy who is bringing the energy and will keep that energy going. It makes no sense how Quin coaches these rotations. 

[Nash]

Down to 5 and then defensive breakdown by Dre being late on Middleton resulting in 3 pointer. Next possession Dre TO' resulting in 3 by Lopez and that literally sealed the game. Oh well, the game was fun anyway 

[Hawkmoor]

1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Vit gave us nothing on both ends of the floor. Keep playing the guy who is bringing the energy and will keep that energy going. It makes no sense how Quin coaches these rotations. 

[Hawkmoor]

2 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Play Bruno at the four. Play Clint at the five. Stay big the rest of the game. He has to coach by the feel of the game. Why doesn't he do that? 

 

That might have worked.  Playing Matthews against Giannis for even one possession was laughable.

[Spud2nique]

We played hard. Came up short but have what we had. Bogi is playing on a different level, prolly some of the best ball of his career. Love Bruno mixing it up with Bobby and Pat pest Bev. 
 

We get our guys back and we keep up THIS level of intensity and desire we may be on to something.

 

Big one coming against the Bulls.

 

Go Hawks! 

[Spud2nique]

7 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Vit's got all the moves!

 

 

Magic Vit! Both the moves using his entire wingspan and the passes. I thought he was the Czech Jordan turns out he’s Magic !

Bogi nailing that 3/4 court shot! Late and didn’t count but he’s got a synergy going with the hoop right now.

Also on Bogi, one shot he made around the paint went through the hoop and barely moved the net, mad clean . Bogi is on one.

[KB21]

Got to love the Quin slander and the desire to go back to the 1980s style by plying two bigs at the same time.  

[Diesel]

8 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

That is why he sabotaged the game. Quinn never goes with the hot hand. He always sticks to his rotations. And that's a big problem when you have an undersized team. Play Bruno at the four. Play Clint at the five. Stay big the rest of the game. He has to coach by the feel of the game. Why doesn't he do that? 

Vit gave us nothing on both ends of the floor. Keep playing the guy who is bringing the energy and will keep that energy going. It makes no sense how Quin coaches these rotations. 

There is no safe hot hand around Quin.  He will destroy it with Nate Like precision. 

 

[lethalweapon3]

Palate Cleanser!

~lw3

[Spud2nique]

I’m not gonna lie I wanted a lightweight fight between Wes and the pest but they were big game huntin!

[benhillboy]

12 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Bogi was tremendous tonight, unfortunately it came in a loss.

Bogi is always tremendous.  Check his on/off in relation to the rest of the roster:

 

 

His shooting and short and long movement always bends the defense for great impact, but his valiant effort on defense is what’s keeping his metrics solid (sandwiched between Ant Man and Donovan Mitchell for total steals). 
 

Shout out to Bruno and Vit making nice strides.  I crap on the Bufkin pick but these numbers show it would’ve been nice to watch him grow defensively if he had been healthy.  Second straight year of sh*tty on/ off for our starting veteran backcourt but no surprise there.  

BTW Patty has been playing significant minutes for the heat in 11 games.  Fool is +19/ +18.6 smh.

[kg01]

3 hours ago, lethalweapon3 said:

Palate Cleanser!

~lw3

Early Christmas gift idea, you ask?

A crisp, clean JackJumpers Shirley for ya boy.

1 hour ago, benhillboy said:

Bogi is always tremendous.  Check his on/off in relation to the rest of the roster:

 

 

His shooting and short and long movement always bends the defense for great impact, but his valiant effort on defense is what’s keeping his metrics solid (sandwiched between Ant Man and Donovan Mitchell for total steals). 
 

Shout out to Bruno and Vit making nice strides.  I crap on the Bufkin pick but these numbers show it would’ve been nice to watch him grow defensively if he had been healthy.  Second straight year of sh*tty on/ off for our starting veteran backcourt but no surprise there.  

BTW Patty has been playing significant minutes for the heat in 11 games.  Fool is +19/ +18.6 smh.

Your on/off numbers are always stellar, hb.

That alarm is your sarcasm-detector doing its job.

 

Oh come on, laugh hillbilly. 

[Jody23]

Tough loss.  Only thing to do is, move...On to the next one !!!

[TheNorthCydeRises]

10 hours ago, KB21 said:

Got to love the Quin slander and the desire to go back to the 1980s style by plying two bigs at the same time.  

Give a letter grade to Quin this season.  I'm interested to see how you view him right now.

[KB21]

2 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

Give a letter grade to Quin this season.  I'm interested to see how you view him right now.

A.  He’s been excellent.  

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 hour ago, KB21 said:

A.  He’s been excellent.  

 

Excellent? We're below .500. 

How does he get an A?

 

 

[KB21]

1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

Excellent? We're below .500. 

How does he get an A?

 

 

We are below 500 dilute to bas roster construction.  We should have traded Clint and opened up the center position for OO.  We shouldn’t have gone into the season with only three forwards.  
 

Schematically, Quin is a high level genius.  We’ve seen a return to proper player development.  
 

He has solidified my view of him as an elite head coach.  

[TheNorthCydeRises]

23 minutes ago, KB21 said:

We are below 500 dilute to bas roster construction.  We should have traded Clint and opened up the center position for OO.  We shouldn’t have gone into the season with only three forwards.  
 

Schematically, Quin is a high level genius.  We’ve seen a return to proper player development.  
 

He has solidified my view of him as an elite head coach.  

 You're grading on the very low end of the curve if you're giving Quin an A.  

That means that no matter what this team did, he was going to get the benefit of the doubt and get a high grade for "player development."  That's what we said LP's role was.  Quin was brought here to win, and not be a player development coach.

Quin could've already elevated OO to the starting center spot over Clint. He also could've played him more minutes at the 4 beside Capela, to shore up our rebounding issues and expand OOs game even more.  But he didnt.

Instead, he's opted to play small ball and emphasize spacing, with a team that isn't tough and not a high shooting 3 point percentage team.

He consistently played Bey out of position and gave him the green light to shoot, despite brick after brick being shot by him.

We gave minutes to Trent Forest instead of letting Bufkin get spot minutes with the big team.

We've seen AJ go from a promising piece of the future last season ( under Nate ), to a guy who can barely hit the floor under Quin.

Bruno, until everyone got hurt, was locked onto the bench, even when we lost Jalen in December. The one guy that could bring some energy and toughness to the frontline, wasn't even thought about until damn near the entire frontline got hurt.

Defensively, this team was a sham, in part to Quin's player rotations and defensive philosophy.

At best, Snyder gets a C+ for his coaching this season.

It would've just been a solid C, if not for our defensive minded role players and the stellar play of DJ, keeping the team afloat in March.

[KB21]

I think you are obviously biased against Quin and his style of coaching.  
 

Pierce wasn’t hired to develop players.  He was hired to lose games.  Quin was hired to build back the culture we had under Bud where player development was stressed in the proper way.  In fact, this first season reminds me of Bud’s first season where we won 38 games despite having Al for only 29 games.  
 

Quin has had to deal with a lot more lost injury time.  How this team has held together late in the season is a major credit to Quin.  

[REHawksFan]

1 hour ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 You're grading on the very low end of the curve if you're giving Quin an A.  

That means that no matter what this team did, he was going to get the benefit of the doubt and get a high grade for "player development."  That's what we said LP's role was.  Quin was brought here to win, and not be a player development coach.

Quin could've already elevated OO to the starting center spot over Clint. He also could've played him more minutes at the 4 beside Capela, to shore up our rebounding issues and expand OOs game even more.  But he didnt.

Instead, he's opted to play small ball and emphasize spacing, with a team that isn't tough and not a high shooting 3 point percentage team.

He consistently played Bey out of position and gave him the green light to shoot, despite brick after brick being shot by him.

We gave minutes to Trent Forest instead of letting Bufkin get spot minutes with the big team.

We've seen AJ go from a promising piece of the future last season ( under Nate ), to a guy who can barely hit the floor under Quin.

Bruno, until everyone got hurt, was locked onto the bench, even when we lost Jalen in December. The one guy that could bring some energy and toughness to the frontline, wasn't even thought about until damn near the entire frontline got hurt.

Defensively, this team was a sham, in part to Quin's player rotations and defensive philosophy.

At best, Snyder gets a C+ for his coaching this season.

It would've just been a solid C, if not for our defensive minded role players and the stellar play of DJ, keeping the team afloat in March.

I think your argument against him is pretty biased. 

So you think player development was supposed to stop after LP? What about JJ? What about the other young guys who have developed? 

The record sux and the defense sucked all year. But I'd remind you that it wasn't til this past summer that Quin put in any of his own offense or schemes. 

And I'd also remind you that we started the year with 8 legit NBA players along with Kobe and AJ. AJ has been out all year for personal reasons. And Kobe is a rookie. 

Of the 8 legit NBA players, they all been healthy together for something like 15 games all season. 

Roster construction and injuries are why the record sux. Not coaching 

There's always going to be arguments against any coach's rotations and stuff. That's a personal preference thing. But all considered, Quin has been solid in year 1. 

I'd give him a solid B.