High5 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Defensive rating is heavily dependent on the team. It’s not a great individual stat. Still, Trae has been part of the improvement so it’s not totally undeserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: So no on the bod thang? Whaaa? What'd I miss? Also, where can I find clips of Trae straight lockin' up Smart toward the end of the game. I'm goin' all-in on the Mitten thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, kg01 said: I think this tweet is going to find it's trolly way onto RgM along with a new nickname for Trae. They called Gary Payton the 'Glove'. Well, let me introduce you to .... the 'Mitten' (pause for applause) That's what Steve Smith called Kyle Korver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, High5 said: Defensive rating is heavily dependent on the team. It’s not a great individual stat. Still, Trae has been part of the improvement so it’s not totally undeserved. You're right but 'they' use every defensive metric, no matter how team-dependent it is, to deride Trae's individual defense when we struggle. We should be able to use it in the reverse now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, marco102 said: That's what Steve Smith called Kyle Korver. Did he? I don’t remember that. That’s funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco102 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Spud2nique said: Did he? I don’t remember that. That’s funny. Yeah I will see if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud2nique Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kg01 said: I think this tweet is going to find it's trolly way onto RgM along with a new nickname for Trae. They called Gary Payton the 'Glove'. Well, let me introduce you to .... the 'Mitten' (pause for applause) I love how he went after the big bullies right away too. He didn’t warm up picking on a point guard but rather the big boys like Jimi and Miles. it’s like prison, he went to show the others to back the f up. Edited January 29, 2022 by Spud2nique 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: I love how he went after the big bullies right away too. He didn’t warm up picking on a point guard but rather the big boys like Jimi and Miles. it’s like prison, he went to show the others to back the f up. All right. I have begun to knit the yarn about the Mitten. I gave you and stu a shout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted January 29, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 It's true, @Spud2nique... it would only be right for some Hawk to eventually ascend to being called The Spanx. I know she sold out, but one of our owners would take some special joy in that, I'm sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, kg01 said: You're right but 'they' use every defensive metric, no matter how team-dependent it is, to deride Trae's individual defense when we struggle. We should be able to use it in the reverse now. You can start citing stats you made up for all I care. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, High5 said: You can start citing stats you made up for all I care. I'll do anything to get 'the Mitten' to stick as a nickname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h4wkfan Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, kg01 said: I'll do anything to get 'the Mitten' to stick as a nickname. Be sure to throw in there that the mavs are Better with Luka off the court. Cause that is always brought up in some context over there. also, someone with far more talent than me needs to photoshop some trae mittens on the Neil Tyson gif where he holds his hands up. Make that go mainstream, and you may be on to something. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High5 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, kg01 said: I'll do anything to get 'the Mitten' to stick as a nickname. I hate to break it to you but the Mitten nickname has already been given to the Glove’s actual son. He probably hates it tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, High5 said: I hate to break it to you but the Mitten nickname has already been given to the Glove’s actual son. He probably hates it tho. Screw that guy. Trae is .... the Mitten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted January 30, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 AllStar Starters!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) On 1/29/2022 at 10:06 AM, High5 said: Defensive rating is heavily dependent on the team. It’s not a great individual stat. Still, Trae has been part of the improvement so it’s not totally undeserved. Individual ratings are by far the best simple rating for a player IMO. There are outliers for sure, notably Dre’s defensive rating. The methodology is the closest to science projects we had to do as a kid: isolating variables to learn about the control. It strives to find the impact of a player when the other 9 guys on the floor are perfectly average: makes a ton of sense to me. How do you explain Gary Payton Jr having the best offensive rating by far on the warriors and a defensive rating tied with Draymond when he’s usually running with a bunch of cast-offs and a rookie? It’s because all he does is stop opponents dribble, dunk, and rarely makes mistakes. No ones gonna tell me OO hasn’t been keying this win streak when his ratings and my eyes scream that he has. I just been studying it a long time and there are loads of facets of the game contained in those two little numbers. Edited January 31, 2022 by benhillboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benhillboy Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) I misspoke and said this assist was Kevin’s instead it was Bogi. Traes third made three was one of my favorite plays of his ever: https://www.nba.com/stats/events/?ContextMeasure=FG3M&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022100751&PlayerID=1629027&RangeType=0&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612737&flag=3&sct=plot§ion=game I criticized him in the past for not playing the baseline enough, not getting off the ball properly, not taking enough corner threes, not empowering his mates enough to be playmakers. He did it all here in a few seconds. Instant team offensive rating booster. This was mirror image Steph shit. Edited January 31, 2022 by benhillboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 In our last game, ball going all over, Trae ended up in the corner. He shot. Nothing but net for three! "That was so good I may try that again sometime!" Good things may happen when you play off the ball. It opens lots of possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member HawkingAwesome Posted February 1, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 what kind of drummer would you say trae is>? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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