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[Blunt91]

     I found this article where they Interviewed Golden State's GM Boby Myers.  The article stated that as of Wednesday they were still working on their draft Board.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/trade-interest-warriors-no-2-nba-draft-pick-fluctuating-bob-myers-says

[kg01]

3 hours ago, bleachkit said:

I reject the narrative that this draft class is hot garbage. It's just that the stars in the class (Melo, Ant, Wiseman) are flawed. But there are some really nice solid high floor guys.

You don't tank to end up with the choice between a bunch of high floor guys, which is why this draft is indeed garbage.

Folks have said all along there are several good roleplyers to be had but, as I said, that's not what the lottery is for.  Those guys don't shift the fortunes of your franchise.

[gurpilo]

hace 1 hora, kg01 dijo:

You don't tank to end up with the choice between a bunch of high floor guys, which is why this draft is indeed garbage.

Folks have said all along there are several good roleplyers to be had but, as I said, that's not what the lottery is for.  Those guys don't shift the fortunes of your franchise.

Getting a solid good starter is what you could expect at 6th pick. The players we have available there are in line with these expectations. Bad year to be on the top 3 where you are expected to get a star.

[thecampster]

9 hours ago, JTB said:

That may not be true that the hawks are on his short list . It’s just a tweet I saw in another hawks group that our fellow fans are going crazy about.

@NBASupes or @thecampster can confirm but I am almost sure it’s not true 

Do not believe anything analysts are saying about Atlanta right now. The players, coaches, agents are well aware of what we're building. They know we now have Capella, Dedmon. They know JC was out a significant portion of last year and it busted our season. The entire league is intrigued by Cam as our eventual 3rd/4th option. A lineup of Trae, Westbrook, Cam, Collins and Capella would be impossible to guard nightly. You would have 2 free throw machines on the floor at all times. Yes Westbrook and many players around the league see Atlanta as up and coming the next 2 years.

You are going to hear a ton of noise about vets wanting to play with Trae. Trae means aging vets do not have to work as hard to keep their stats high or their salary value for that matter.

Edited November 12, 2020 by thecampster

[Gray Mule]

Life is like a roll of toilet tissue.  The nearer the end, the faster it rolls off!

Slowly, oh so slowly, this off season has rolled.  Quiet suddenly, or so it seems, the end approaches.  Soon the NBA teams will be allowed to sign players to new contracts or change current ones.  The draft is fast approaching.  Free agency is almost here.  Trades, already a hot topic, is almost here.

Hawks have players that will not return.  Extra, G League players on 2 way contracts.  

Hawks have real needs.  Hawks have $$$ room.  Hawks have a lot of rumors because of this.

Hurry up and wait.  Things are moving so fast.  Yet, they can't move.  Not yet.  But, get ready.  The end / beginning of everything is staring us in the face.  The explosion is not yet.  However, the fuse has been lit and is burning closer and closer.

Get er done Hawks !!

[Diesel]

28 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Do not believe anything analysts are saying about Atlanta right now. The players, coaches, agents are well aware of what we're building. They know we now have Capella, Dedmon. They know JC was out a significant portion of last year and it busted our season. The entire league is intrigued by Cam as our eventual 3rd/4th option. A lineup of Trae, Westbrook, Cam, Collins and Capella would be impossible to guard nightly. You would have 2 free throw machines on the floor at all times. Yes Westbrook and many players around the league see Atlanta as up and coming the next 2 years.

You are going to hear a ton of noise about vets wanting to play with Trae. Trae means aging vets do not have to work as hard to keep their stats high or their salary value for that matter.

I think it's more so that we got a ton of capspace and when players are negotiating or even trying to gain the interest of other teams... calling out a team that can make a deal happen tends to get the fire rolling.   That's what I see in Westbrook.  I hope he ends up in NYC.

 

[NBASupes]

36 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Do not believe anything analysts are saying about Atlanta right now. The players, coaches, agents are well aware of what we're building. They know we now have Capella, Dedmon. They know JC was out a significant portion of last year and it busted our season. The entire league is intrigued by Cam as our eventual 3rd/4th option. A lineup of Trae, Westbrook, Cam, Collins and Capella would be impossible to guard nightly. You would have 2 free throw machines on the floor at all times. Yes Westbrook and many players around the league see Atlanta as up and coming the next 2 years.

You are going to hear a ton of noise about vets wanting to play with Trae. Trae means aging vets do not have to work as hard to keep their stats high or their salary value for that matter.

The facts are, Atlanta has a lot of people with various options about what we should do which has been the case every year. 

Remember when Givony swore we wanted JJJ and Chris Krishner thought Culver was a lock when my guy said, if he was still on the board, Atlanta would have picked P.J. Washington at #10 if Reddish was gone.

Right now, people don't really know know till the day of the draft because that's when the offers get legit and the negotiations get serious. Anything you are hearing right now is your typical fluff. Things get overstated as well. 

[NBASupes]

5 hours ago, Blunt91 said:

     I found this article where they Interviewed Golden State's GM Boby Myers.  The article stated that as of Wednesday they were still working on their draft Board.

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/trade-interest-warriors-no-2-nba-draft-pick-fluctuating-bob-myers-says

This is the biggest fact in the last two pages. These teams aren't sure who they are going to pick and like he says, a team could have a completely different value of the pick than what they feel it is.

[Vol4ever]

Sports media is just like the daily news.........conjector and rumors.   

[marco102]

54 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

This is the biggest fact in the last two pages. These teams aren't sure who they are going to pick and like he says, a team could have a completely different value of the pick than what they feel it is.

So is Gordon Hayward to ATL dead?

[BangHolman]

1 hour ago, thecampster said:

Do not believe anything analysts are saying about Atlanta right now. The players, coaches, agents are well aware of what we're building. They know we now have Capella, Dedmon. They know JC was out a significant portion of last year and it busted our season. The entire league is intrigued by Cam as our eventual 3rd/4th option. A lineup of Trae, Westbrook, Cam, Collins and Capella would be impossible to guard nightly. You would have 2 free throw machines on the floor at all times. Yes Westbrook and many players around the league see Atlanta as up and coming the next 2 years.

You are going to hear a ton of noise about vets wanting to play with Trae. Trae means aging vets do not have to work as hard to keep their stats high or their salary value for that matter.

This is something that I know most of us all believe as Hawks fans. It's nice to see there's some substance to it.

[NBASupes]

Update: 

Minny-ATL

There is heated tensions between the two. Neither really likes the other at the moment due to Atlanta feeling Rosas is just too high on his assets and leaking intel. This is sad as MIN-ATL made great trade partners last year. The issue is MIN sees clear partner in Atlanta but doesn't understand why Atlanta doesn't want to trade the assets they covet from Atlanta while Atlanta clearly isn't interested in moving any of those assets for any picks in this draft and made it clear that those guys are completely off limits. 

When it comes to Culver, there is even less interest in that than you could imagine. LP nor the coaching staff was high on him after the workouts. In fact, he completely dropped down the board because of it. It's no surprise right now that Minny is shopping him and it's no surprise, interest is limited. Minny best draft assets are this year so they want to take full advantage of it but they must realize, you can't force people into deals they aren't willing to do or leak intel that was in-house to the media. It creates bad repour. 

 

He also thinks this is what's happening with OKC-LAC. LAC has been really tough to deal with for OKC. They aren't willing to trade Shamet. They have no future picks or current picks to trade. While PHX is willing to trade Oubre, Rubio, and filler to Paul. It's a no brainer which one they prefer but the issue is, they made a promise to Chris that they will send him to a contender, well contenders are almost always asset limited. OKC is pushing PHX offer in hopes that it would make Chris see this is a great spot for him but we all know where CP3 wants to go and it's not to PHX. 

[JeffS17]

1 hour ago, thecampster said:

Do not believe anything analysts are saying about Atlanta right now. The players, coaches, agents are well aware of what we're building. They know we now have Capella, Dedmon. They know JC was out a significant portion of last year and it busted our season. The entire league is intrigued by Cam as our eventual 3rd/4th option. A lineup of Trae, Westbrook, Cam, Collins and Capella would be impossible to guard nightly. You would have 2 free throw machines on the floor at all times. Yes Westbrook and many players around the league see Atlanta as up and coming the next 2 years.

You are going to hear a ton of noise about vets wanting to play with Trae. Trae means aging vets do not have to work as hard to keep their stats high or their salary value for that matter.

I feel like they lineup doesn't have much spacing at all.  There's not enough room in the paint for collins, westbrook, capella.  I feel like if you swap out westbrook with a good 3P shooting guard and it's better.  Not to mention the bench rotation is dog scraps with that much salary in the starting rotation... I really hope we don't end up with Westbrook.  It would kill our flexibility and we'd be one injury from ruining the entire rebuild, not to mention the fact he's aging and his entire game revolves around being the most athletic guy on the court.

[NBASupes]

16 minutes ago, marco102 said:

So is Gordon Hayward to ATL dead?

He has never a trade for type. He was always a free agent target. 

[marco102]

Just now, NBASupes said:

He has never a trade for type. He was always a free agent target. 

Thats what I'm asking.  Do you think that he will still sign here?

[BangHolman]

3 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Thats what I'm asking.  Do you think that he will still sign here?

He's has to opt out first. 

[NBASupes]

4 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Thats what I'm asking.  Do you think that he will still sign here?

If he opts out, it's very likely he will but that's why I said, those CBA negotiations was critical. The escrow is now 10%. I actually think that benefits Atlanta more than hurts them.

Edited November 12, 2020 by NBASupes

[NBASupes]

What's crazy is Houston would like to do the Westbrook-LAC deal. They feel like it would make them a better team after the fact. I think it would too. Lou Will, Pat Bev, Zubac, and Kabengele is a no brainer for Houston. On top of that, the Horford/Thybulle deal is in still works. I don't like it for LAC. I can say that much. The vibe my guy is getting, LAC FO doesn't like it as much either. 

[NBASupes]

Almost forgot but he mentioned Houston has interest in Griffin/Kennard from DET for Gordon/Tucker deal as well. Not that DET has interest, just that HOU is also looking into that possible deal. HOU is looking everywhere, that's facts. 

[JayBirdHawk]

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

Almost forgot but he mentioned Houston has interest in Griffin/Kennard from DET for Gordon/Tucker deal as well. Not that DET has interest, just that HOU is also looking into that possible deal. HOU is looking everywhere, that's facts. 

Any chance Houston wants to move Covington?