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[warcore]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Ya'll just found out the two names in the Indy deal. I gave y'all Oladipo 

We did??? Cuz the only name just mentioned before this post, was Alonzo Trier by KG.... that ain't blockbuster. 

[bleachkit]

35 minutes ago, AHF said:

I'm sure he's not concerned about Squawkers being upset and more concerned about restrictions coming from or relating to his source.

Supes hasn't even told the guy about the squawk. He'd never know.

[JayBirdHawk]

On 11/7/2020 at 7:56 PM, NBASupes said:

6.      ATL (WAS) – Okongwu – Troy Brown Jr., #9, #37 for 6

Chris Kirchner talking about the above trade idea with the Wiz:

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The draft

Trade: No. 6 to Washington for No. 9, Troy Brown Jr. With the ninth pick, draft Auburn’s Isaac Okoro. With the 50th pick, draft DePaul’s Paul Reed as a priority two-way option.      

Washington could use a center, so in this scenario, the Wizards would trade up to ensure they could grab USC’s Onyeka Okongwu. The Hawks get a young player who averaged 15.3 points, 7.3 rebounds and 4.5 assists per game in the eight games the Wizards played in Orlando and showed he has the ability to have success as a primary option with Washington depleted. For the season, Brown had success in making spot-up jumpers, which was a weakness for the Hawks last season. He also is a quality defender, which the Hawks need. He also has secondary playmaking abilities, which, again, checks off another box for being a useful player for Atlanta. Getting Brown plus Okoro at No. 9 is better than any single option the Hawks could get at No. 6. Okoro gives them another high defensive upside wing with an ability to create and the potential for his shot coming around to becoming at least league average. Getting Reed at No. 50 would be a fantastic option that late in the draft. He has the potential to be a truly elite defensive player, and if he can shoot it better than 33 percent from 3-point range, he would have a chance to be a legitimate rotation player moving forward.

 

 

 

[terrell]

Come on Supes. Who are we getting????lol..

Edited November 13, 2020 by terrell

[terrell]

Just now, terrell said:

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Clippers gave up all of this for PG, and now theyre giving away another 1st rd pick to give him away....lol

[bleachkit]

Just now, terrell said:

Clippers gave up all of this for PG, and now theyre giving away another 1st rd pick to give him away....lol

He isn't going anywhere for that reason. That's why I called BS on the PG to the Hawks stuff.

[terrell]

2 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

He isn't going anywhere for that reason. That's why I called BS on the PG to the Hawks stuff.

Theyre trying to trade him for Westbrook supposedly..PG for Westbrook, Covington. and 2023 1st..lol

Edited November 13, 2020 by terrell

[warcore]

28 minutes ago, terrell said:

Kuz,Randle, Oubre, Anunoby, Levert, or Dinwiddie..lol

It's not Kuz or Anunoby cuz campster said we'd come out of the deal with 2 less rookie contracts, yet these are more rookie contracts. 

It's not Randle, Oubre, Levert or Dinwiddie cuz none of them are blockbuster. 

[JayBirdHawk]

8 minutes ago, terrell said:

Theyre trying to trade him for Westbrook supposedly..PG for Westbrook, Covington. and 2023 1st..lol

Per Supes:  Both CP3 and Westbrook want to go to LAC.  Kawhi prefers to get CP3 over Westbrook,  Suns want CP3 but he prefers LAC, OKC prefers the Suns package to LAC's package.  Houston is in a tough spot.

Edit: LAC will have to send out additional salary.

[terrell]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Per Supes:  Both CP3 and Westbrook want to go to LAC.  Kawhi prefers to get CP3 over Westbrook,  Suns want CP3 but he prefers LAC, OKC prefers the Suns package to LAC's package.  Houston is in a tough spot.

Edit: LAC will have to send out additional salary.

[macdaddy]

CP3 will end up with the clips, he'll be worn down by playoff time, clips exit before finals again.

Westbrook, if there's any justice in the world, will end up in NY.   They'll love him even if (when) the Knicks suck. 

[kg01]

Man I wish you guys had this 2021 clarity.  Supes gave y'all LOladipo.  I gave you Trier.  What more do y'all need?

[Diesel]

4 hours ago, kg01 said:

I see that.  I think it's a flawed rumor.  Surely we "had talks" but no one, other than the celts, can think that would be a good deal for us.

I really hope that we hung up the phone while Danny Ainge was mid sentence.   My thinking is that we are looking for Vet help.   To go whole hog on the draft (and a weak one) doesn't make sense. 

 

5 hours ago, Sothron said:

I'm still wondering why we don't have the names involved in this mega trade. I mean if it happens, great. If it doesn't happen that doesn't mean it wasn't being discussed. It just means the deal didn't happen. 

The Pacers have three players I'd like in a Hawks jersey. Sabonis, Brogdon and Warren. None of them are what I would call star players to call it a mega trade. I want no part of Oladipo.

Deniability. 

 

[terrell]

"The New York Knicks reportedly have interest in Gordon Hayward if he opts out of his contract with the Boston Celtics"

[warcore]

Anyone else really concerned that supes just said "y'all just got the other two players involved...." but the only player mentioned in the last several pages is Alonzo Trier??? I'm so confused. 

[bleachkit]

12 minutes ago, warcore said:

Anyone else really concerned that supes just said "y'all just got the other two players involved...." but the only player mentioned in the last several pages is Alonzo Trier??? I'm so confused. 

No not worried, I have faith in TS to make the right decision or at least a reasonable decision. Trade rumors that sound funny are probably false.

[kg01]

40 minutes ago, warcore said:

Anyone else really concerned that supes just said "y'all just got the other two players involved...." but the only player mentioned in the last several pages is Alonzo Trier??? I'm so confused. 

And the dude that put Trier out there is the only one of us living in 2021.

Hmm, the way I worded that may make people suspicious this username is actually multiple people.   Nah, nobody's paying that much attention to us ... me. 

[marco102]

I'm not worried about this "blockbuster" trade. I'm way more concerned about the Gordon Hayward deal and if he signs here. As I see that as way more likely happening from @NBASupes input. 

 I'm also wondering if they will attempt to trade Huerter to move up in the draft. I hope not.   

I want them to stay at 6 and select Killian Hayes.  That's my offseason wish list.  Also, signing Teague and Skal.

One more wish, if Hayward doesn't come.  Go on and sign Jerami Grant.

Edited November 14, 2020 by marco102

[TheNorthCydeRises]

11 hours ago, AHF said:

From 1988-2017*, here is how I break out the #6 overall picks:

All-NBA 2  6.7%

All-Star 5  16.7%

Plus Starter 3  10%

Starter / Plus 6th Man 6  20%

Rotation 6  20%

Bust 8  26.7%

 

That is actually a reasonably attractive profile for a team in our position.  Historically drafting at this spot there are almost equal odds of getting an All-Star+ to getting someone who can't contribute for years to a team's rotation.

For us, TS needs to see how he feels about the guys who will be available at 6 and if there is someone he is excited about.  The board in a particular highly outweighs the importance of the historical numbers.  For example, historical numbers do not appropriately convey the upside / risk of the #1 overall pick this year at all.  Whoever is picked there will be much more highly tilted to risk than upside compared to the historical norms.   Depending on TS's view, however, there may be a guy or two that could be available at 6 that he thinks compares favorably with historical outcomes at the #6 spot.

* I did not include the 2018 and 2019 drafts because that is too early in a player's career to draw a conclusion.  Probably too early to use 2016 and 2017 as well but I did.

Name those 6 rotation players please.

[capstone21]

So TJ McConnell is the backup pg ... he is just meh ... I was hoping for a defender ... he can come and not mistakes while Trae is getting a rest ... however if trae got hurt he isn’t a guy I would turn the team over to.

so who is the big name coming to us ... and what is going out besides Dedman