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[NBASupes]

2 hours ago, Gray Mule said:

Supes:  Last I heard, the Hawks were working on a new contract for Skal.  Any news \ update?

We read all sorts of rumors that the Hawks are all set to trade.  But, no mention of Skal.  He's our secret weapon that is all but forgotten by the average NBA fan.  

Skal and Bruno and Dewayne and Clint and John.  Consider these big men.  Now, at the beginning of last season, after the first three games, one of these big men was available. Collins suspended.   Bruno a rookie.  Hurting!  Ugh!  

From what I have, nothing has changed. They are still working on a deal for Skal

4 minutes ago, deester11 said:

So, I just saw another scenario where the Hawks trade with the Celtics.  We somehow get Gordon Hayward, but we'll give up #6, Cam, Huerter or Hunter.  I say H3ll to the nah!  Wouldn't we think Cam is a non-starter?

Y'all gotta stop posting rubbish from other sites. If it sounds too stupid to be true, it's not true. Right now, there are no legit trade talks going on between Atlanta and Boston.

Edited November 13, 2020 by NBASupes

[JayBirdHawk]

5 minutes ago, deester11 said:

So, I just saw another scenario where the Hawks trade with the Celtics.  We somehow get Gordon Hayward, but we'll give up #6, Cam, Huerter or Hunter.  I say H3ll to the nah!  Wouldn't we think Cam is a non-starter?

Wishful thinking on their part.  Not even close to possible.

3 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

this is just typical Boston bs.   I don't believe we are trading any of the young 5 guys.  only possibility is maybe Huerter but we'd see a serious player coming back. 

[Wretch]

11 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

The guy I want is Buddy Hield.  He's starting his 4 year deal next season, but it's obvious that Luke Walton doesn't like the guy at all, especially his defense.  I would love to see a guy like that alongside an elite passer like Trae.  He was a former #6 pick that has been productive early on in his career.  He'll be a borderline All-Star at best, unless he plays on a playoff level team in which he's averaging high teens - low 20s ppg . . and shooting a good percentage from 3.

 

The rookie version of Hield, may be this guy, who will be taken somewhere near the end of the lottery.  He's my official sleeper of this draft.  He's also a guy that most of these teams wouldn't touch with a top 8 pick because he has ONE skill set ( although it's an elite one ), and his growth potential to be a star player is probably low.

What he probably won't be, is a bust.  He shoots the ball too well to not be a contributor from Day 1.

 

 

This dude, Hayes, and Deni are the reasons why I'm ok sitting at #6 or trading down.  I'm really digging Nesmith though...his shot looks CLEAN.

[kg01]

8 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Y'all gotta stop posting rubbish from other sites. If it sounds too stupid to be true, it's not true. Right now, there are no legit trade talks going on between Atlanta and Boston.

(not)Sorry but half the fun is posting some crap and watching you go ballistic about it.

Speaking of which, I read on knicksRgreat.com that we're trading them Trae and 2 future 1sts for Alonzo Trier.  Your thoughts? 

[deester11]

12 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

From what I have, nothing has changed. They are still working on a deal for Skal

Y'all gotta stop posting rubbish from other sites. If it sounds too stupid to be true, it's not true. Right now, there are no legit trade talks going on between Atlanta and Boston.

LMBO.  We know it's rubbish, but it's out there. I'm good with no trade scenarios. 

[JayBirdHawk]

13 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

From what I have, nothing has changed. They are still working on a deal for Skal

Y'all gotta stop posting rubbish from other sites. If it sounds too stupid to be true, it's not true. Right now, there are no legit trade talks going on between Atlanta and Boston.

It's great comedy.   Laughter is good for the soul!  This is worth it:

 

[deester11]

Well, I'm just getting back to the site because I thought it was DOA.  Been forever.  I've missed the banter for sure.  That said, I'm ok with staying put, moving or trading.  The options are limitless and because if Travis, I'm here for it all.

[thecampster]

9 hours ago, parfait said:

Hey @NBASupesand @thecampster, it's been pretty quiet lately. Is it the calm before the storm, or are you both under gag orders from your sources as we get closer to crunch time?

The original start date for Free Agency was looking like the 15th/16th.  Teams have deals in place but were set to go by this weekend. Free agency was pushed back to the 20th with the first day you can sign contracts being the 22nd. Technically any team other than the one a player is with can have no contact with that player until free agency begins.

 

Players often use proxies to put things in motion pre-free agency. Technically its still tampering but the league has turned a blind eye thus far.

 

The way this usually works is 1-2 days before free agency begins, you will start to get heavy media leaks about deals. 70+ percent of which will be true at that point.

 

This year is an anomaly though as the draft is Nov 18. Teams need to have their trades ready to go on the 20th but you'll see "will be trading" announcements during the draft.  Any player movement will be trades in theory. Team A will be selecting player X for team B....if and only if there are moving pieces/players involved. Until teams know they're going to be able to sign a certain free agent, they won't be able to leak what they're working on or risk ruining that deal and violating tampering restrictions.

Sources are extremely wary of letting what they know be known around this time because of the momentary freeze on transactions. Nobody with sources will be able to say anything official for the next few days on anything that might impact free agency. 

 

Why you aren't hearing anything from us....or alternatively "how the hell is supes so silent, that guy never shuts up".  There are a few teams holding the keys to the kingdom in the draft right now. In order they are Minnesota, Golden State, Atlanta, Boston. These are dominos that must fall in order to expose the flurry of trades (if any) that will follow.  Nobody wants to trade until they know what Minny is doing.  If Minny goes Ball, no less than 3 teams will want to tradeup for Wiseman and another 4 or 5 for Edwards. If Minny goes Edwards, Ball becomes an extremely hot commodity. If Minny goes Wiseman, its most probably because they are playing trade partners against each other and holding the player for ransom. Once Minny goes, Golden State will either trade out with any of 9 teams who could still want that pick or they could take the player they want (Wiseman or Edwards per rumors). Once those two teams go, teams will have an idea of how the next 3 picks will go and will realize if their guy will be available at 6. It will identify the dance partners for Atlanta and Atlanta will know if they are picking or trading. I'd be surprised to see Atlanta announce anything with #6 before draft night. The sleeper here is Boston. Boston has been trying to move their 3 picks to get into the lottery for a big.  If that works, it changes things for Atlanta considerably. It means more coveted players will slide and we will have even more trading options.

The silence is that there are too many moving pieces because Minny thinks they can spin this #1 selection into a treasure trove to set them up for years. They are trying to squeeze out all the value out of it.  IMHO, they're going to end up using the pick and screwing it up.

[JayBirdHawk]

2 minutes ago, thecampster said:

The original start date for Free Agency was looking like the 15th/16th.  Teams have deals in place but were set to go by this weekend. Free agency was pushed back to the 20th with the first day you can sign contracts being the 22nd. Technically any team other than the one a player is with can have no contact with that player until free agency begins.

 

I always had FAcy after the draft and the new league year starting.  The 15th/16th is the transaction window for players that are currently under contract  that can be traded under the old season.

[macdaddy]

6 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Why you aren't hearing anything from us....or alternatively "how the hell is supes so silent, that guy never shuts up".

LOL.  Way to bury the slam in serious post.

Unless Minny trades the pick i think they are crazy not to take Edwards.

[JayBirdHawk]

@NBASupes  @thecampster

With 5 days left, the latest buzz regarding #6, FAcy and Capspace:

1. Keep the #6 pick

2. Trade up using some combination of #6, Huerter and a future protected 2021 or 2022 1st.

3. Trade down to the Wizards for #9 and Troy Brown Jr

4. Trade down with Minny for #17 and Jarrett Culver

5. Part of a Mega deal involving Hawks/Pacers/3rd team (this doesn't involve any picks)

6. Sign Hayward in FAcy if he opts out

7. Be the 3rd team as a facilitator in a Jrue trade.

What did I miss?

 

 

[NBASupes]

Ya'll just found out the two names in the Indy deal. I gave y'all Oladipo 

[macdaddy]

4 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Ya'll just found out the two names in the Indy deal. I gave y'all Oladipo 

yeah.  that's the one i believe in.

[NBASupes]

For Atlanta do the blockbuster deal and sign Hayward, I am hearing they will have to cap space which they believe should be very easy to do. 

Edited November 13, 2020 by NBASupes

[JayBirdHawk]

27 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Ya'll just found out the two names in the Indy deal. I gave y'all Oladipo 

[Diesel]

4 hours ago, kg01 said:

That's not "word on the street".  That's "what BOS needs to happen".

Naturally, that's what the eggsperts say we should do.  Ridiculous.

What a horrid deal that would be.

Came from Kevin O'Connor.   He said that we had "conversations". 

 

[Diesel]

Here's a question.

 

Is Culver better than any of the guys that we can draft?

 

[bleachkit]

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Im kinda meh on Oladipo. Gets hurt a lot, inconsistent career and wants to get paid. I don't see the fit.

[BangHolman]

23 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Here's a question.

 

Is Culver better than any of the guys that we can draft?

 

He's pretty close to Okoro. As I mentioned in an earlier post, they're both hard workers on defense, play makers on offense, Culver is a better shooter, but neither can make a FT. For those that lean Okoro, from a value standpoint, #6 for Culver and #17 (that could be used on a number of players) is not that bad. 

FWIW I'd rather take Haliburton or Hayes than do that deal.

[bird_dirt]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Ya'll just found out the two names in the Indy deal. I gave y'all Oladipo 

What does this even mean? Are my reading comprehension skills shot, or is Supes talking in Supenese?

@NBASupes are you saying that we (Squawk) just found out the two names in the Indy deal? Bc of so, I haven't. Myles Turner only other name I've seen mentioned, and not with a Dipo trade.

Or did you miss adding an "I" in there and meant, "Y'all, I just found out the two names..."

Are you talking about names coming to Atlanta or just names of players getting moved?

I'm so confused.