Collins has to PROVE more! Sorry but the clock starts now...

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

Listen from the 33 minute mark for all things John Collins.

Edited: Just finished listening, Insightful  -  the Trae stuff at the 54 minute mark is very candid and honest. Not many players would have the guts to say it.

[macdaddy]

3 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Listen from the 33 minute mark for all things John Collins.

Edited: Just finished listening, Insightful  -  the Trae stuff at the 54 minute mark is very candid and honest. Not many players would have the guts to say it.

54 minute mark is great.   Fans need to understand that.  It's when you have a team full of players who don't challenge each other that you can't compete.

[JayBirdHawk]

2 hours ago, macdaddy said:

54 minute mark is great.   Fans need to understand that.  It's when you have a team full of players who don't challenge each other that you can't compete.

For those that don't want to listen:

 

 

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Spud2nique]

I was listening to NBA radio’s the starting lineup with Frank (Isola aka @kg01) and Rick (Kamla) this morning and they were discussing John Collins. Rick said that he asked John some time ago during an interview what would be the first thing he purchased with his  money and he said a car. Later down the line Rick asked John if he had purchased his car yet and he said he didn’t have enough money. Rick said John’s first purchase was a car for his mother before buying himself one.

Frank followed up with saying he just loves John Collins and that he’s one of the up and coming players in the league.

He’s ours. Let’s keep him here.  

[macdaddy]

7 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

I was listening to NBA radio’s the starting lineup with Frank (Isola aka @kg01) and Rick (Kamla) this morning and they were discussing John Collins. Rick said that he asked John some time ago during an interview what would be the first thing he purchased with his  money and he said a car. Later down the line Rick asked John if he had purchased his car yet and he said he didn’t have enough money. Rick said John’s first purchase was a car for his mother before buying himself one.

Frank followed up with saying he just loves John Collins and that he’s one of the up and coming players in the league.

He’s ours. Let’s keep him here.  

Agree.  He's a guy you want around.  Maybe we should start a new Collins thread because the 'clock' has been going for a while and seems like he proved more than anyone imagined this season.   

[Spud2nique]

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[AHF]

2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

The fact that he could win this in the same year he served an extended suspension for performance enhancing drugs speaks well to who he is off the court.

[JayBirdHawk]

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He took a step forward on defense, too, despite often playing out of position at center and matching up with bigger players (he’s 6-foot-8.5 without shoes). But, getting better at setting up teammates is one of his big priorities going into Year 4 (Collins averaged 1.5 assists per game). 

“Going forward, I feel like playmaking, for me, is going to be the next biggest thing,” Collins said. “Obviously, I can always get better on defense, improve intensity, my willingness to be locked in and stay in a stance, all that stuff is great, but I feel like playmaking, for myself, not only to create shots for myself but to create shots for others, benefits everybody.” 

Ballhandling would be one, just trying to tighten it up and get it crisp,” Collins said. “Watching film and seeing how my teammates like to catch the ball, seeing what their tendencies are helps. There’s so many things, a multitude of things. I feel like getting lower and like I said, figuring out how I like to pass, figuring out what my strengths are, do I like overhand, underhand, and timing, there’s a bunch of factors that go into it. Film is probably the first place where I’ll start, and then we can go from there.” 

 

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“Size is just something you can’t teach, you know what I mean?” Collins said. “I can’t be bigger than Joel Embiid or Steven Adams or Aron Baynes. It’s almost near impossible. I do my best to guard the guys when I can or when the time comes for us to play small-ball, situational stuff. But definitely having Clint there to be a true 5 puts me back in my position and allows things to run smoother and allows us to be in our true and natural (positions), so hopefully it works and flows like I’m envisioning in my mind.” 

“For guys who don’t watch specifically and understand how I play out of position, you look at stats, and say I play Joel that night and I’m in foul trouble,” Collins said. “A lot of the times, it’s because I’m out of position and I’m trying to make up for him being so big. Just small things are going to hopefully lead to a bigger surplus in the end. Obviously, you might not see it every single game, every single detail, but those small things and those small details add up so much, and that’s what creates winning.”

 

[Spud2nique]

If Collins indeed tightens his handles just a bit and licks down on D, he’s probably going to attend his first all star ️ game sooner than later.

@Peoriabird We John Collins.

 

 

[marco102]

On 6/17/2020 at 11:48 AM, Spud2nique said:

 

John's looking mighty slim.  Maybe with Capela in tow he decided to slim down to play the PF position.

[Buzzard]

On 6/18/2020 at 1:14 PM, Spud2nique said:

If Collins indeed tightens his handles just a bit and licks down on D, he’s probably going to attend his first all star ️ game sooner than later.

@Peoriabird We John Collins.

 

 

I predicted incremental progress for Collins for the 2020/21 season but think I will be wrong. I just looked over the early years for K Love, KG, Karl Malone and Amare Stoudermire ...

Collins is about to blow up again and put the naysayers to bed. 24.0 and 9.5 is what I forsee Collins doing next season without a hitch in his efficiency.

1- If the the Negative Nancy's want to continue calling him a 3rd option, they will also have to call him the best 3rd option in the NBA.

2- If any of our other players can sniff 18 points a game in an efficient manner, our offense will no longer be one of the laughing stocks of the league. In other words, LP will not even be able to screw it up.

[kg01]

Hmmm, I wonder who's orchestrating Collins' development.  Maybe he's doing it all on his own?  And Reddish did it on his own.  And Trae did it on his own.  And the next ones will all be doing it on their own too, I guess?

[Buzzard]

38 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Hmmm, I wonder who's orchestrating Collins' development.  Maybe he's doing it all on his own?  And Reddish did it on his own.  And Trae did it on his own.  And the next ones will all be doing it on their own too, I guess?

Who is our player development coach now? He or she could be in line for a head coaching job based on their improvement.

Maybe you missed the part in the interview when Collins said Trae was working out in Oklahoma like he was working out at home. This might be foreign terms for some, but its called work ethic and drive. If LP wants the credit for that, I have no problem with him being our lead development coach. Rotations, strategy, and Xs and Os is a different matter.

[Spud2nique]

ISE.

[bleachkit]

On 6/17/2020 at 5:17 PM, AHF said:

The fact that he could win this in the same year he served an extended suspension for performance enhancing drugs speaks well to who he is off the court.

It also speaks to the fact no one really cares about PEDs, unless its baseball or track and field. 

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

ISE.

Indeed.  Indeed.

[Buzzard]

42 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

It also speaks to the fact no one really cares about PEDs, unless its baseball or track and field. 

PEDs in the public eye has almost become accepted facts for athletes. The leagues' obviously have a different view. A first time offense for PEDs equaled over a 25% cut in pay for Collins; not to mention the damage it did to the team.

Collins could have gotten a DUI while injuring someone in a accident or beat his spouse and may not have lost that much time and money.

[Buzzard]

25 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

ISE.

What does ISE mean Spudster?