De'Andre Hunter: The Steady Eddy

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said:

This sucks. Get better Dre.

 

 

Not really.  sucks for the young man.  Let's get this thing fixed up good and be ready for Training Camp 2021.

[sturt]

4 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said:

This sucks. Get better Dre.

 

 

Preseason 2021-22.

Just glad it started this early so we can address this kind of thing.

[Spud2nique]

Monkey balls this blows.

[sturt]

This time last year, many were more enthusiastic about Cam than Dre.

This time this year, many have been more enthusiastic about Dre than Cam.

Perhaps circumstances are developing where we can get to a place where we have great reason to be enthusiastic about both going to training camp.

Cam, if you're ready, we're ready.  As I recall, you struck this pose after that game winner 3 pointer... was it against Pitt?...

Let's go!

 

[AHF]

38 minutes ago, sturt said:

This time last year, many were more enthusiastic about Cam than Dre.

This time this year, many have been more enthusiastic about Dre than Cam.

Perhaps circumstances are developing where we can get to a place where we have great reason to be enthusiastic about both going to training camp.

Cam, if you're ready, we're ready.  As I recall, you struck this pose after that game winner 3 pointer... was it against Pitt?...

Let's go!

 

This year was a big step forward for Hunter and a significant step back for Cam.  I'm still high on both of them but if health isn't an issue (which obviously can't be assumed for either of them) then Hunter is the one whose floor is as a key starter, imo, whereas Cam's floor is someone we don't resign after his rookie deal.  Their ceilings are both very exciting.  Much rehab and work to be done.

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

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[JayBirdHawk]

Hope he stays healthy.

https://twitter.com/ATLHawks/status/1440694602164424713?s=20

[marco102]

https://theathletic.com/2857092/2021/10/01/deandre-hunter-and-his-road-to-recovery-i-want-to-show-everyone-im-better-this-year/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 

De’Andre Hunter and his road to recovery: ‘I want to show everyone I’m better this year’

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Hunter rehabbed five to six days a week, working on strengthening not only his knee but his quadriceps, calf and hamstring to give the knee adequate support. Before he was cleared for running and jumping, he did hours of work on his ballhandling and dribbling, two areas that were noticeably better for him at the start of last season before his injury. By the time Hunter was ready for movement shooting drills, a lot of his focus was on off-the-dribble shot-making, particularly in the midrange. Hunter believes he can be a great midrange player and said, “That’s my money spot. That’s cash,” when I told him he shot 54 percent, albeit in only 23 regular-season games.

“His movement off the dribble, his first step on pull-ups, his first step in change of direction pull-ups were all pretty explosive and crisp,” Simplis said.

“I don’t look at it as anything that will slow him down moving forward, especially with today’s treatment and recovery. Guys are coming back from injury better than ever before. I think he’s going to be the same player and keep evolving and growing into the player that we saw last year and who we saw from Day 1 in our (pre-)draft process.”

The swelling returned after that second game and wouldn’t subside even after treatment. Hunter said he wasn’t 100 percent healthy but felt good enough to play, which is why he initially returned. The training staff also agreed he was fine to play. In hindsight, Hunter said he would’ve come back later than he did, but he doesn’t blame anybody in the process and is just focused on coming back stronger.

I was wondering how Hunter would feel after coming back too soon. Glad to see, at least publicly, he's not blaming the training staff.  Although, I believe we have a new staff in place. 

[ATLHawks3]

12 minutes ago, marco102 said:

https://theathletic.com/2857092/2021/10/01/deandre-hunter-and-his-road-to-recovery-i-want-to-show-everyone-im-better-this-year/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983 

De’Andre Hunter and his road to recovery: ‘I want to show everyone I’m better this year’

I was wondering how Hunter would feel after coming back too soon. Glad to see, at least publicly, he's not blaming the training staff.  Although, I believe we have a new staff in place. 

Wouldn't be opposed to resting him on the second night of back to backs, and giving him a few off days here and there to manage the stress on his knee. 

[thecampster]

On 6/9/2021 at 4:47 PM, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Additionally, the league-average for Defensive Rating was 110.6, so we can apply the same principles here to say that a rating higher than this is “bad” and a rating lower than this is “good.”

https://www.bruinsportsanalytics.com/post/defensive_rating

[JeffS17]

"Simplis’ workouts include what he calls “fourth-quarter legs,” which includes a full weight-room workout and then executing on-court drills with tired legs because that’s what NBA players tend to play on throughout the course of an 82-game season. Hunter thrived in those conditions."

This is cool, probably somewhat standard for these guys but makes me appreciate the work they put in.  I struggle to just walk home after an intense leg day lol

[JayBirdHawk]

I miss this ...

 

 

[RedDawg#8]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I miss this ...

 

 

Off topic, but I just don't see anything about his game that says he needs to be a PF. This man is as prototypical as it gets as a SF

[Final_quest]

10 hours ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Off topic, but I just don't see anything about his game that says he needs to be a PF. This man is as prototypical as it gets as a SF

Completely accurate.  The only wrench in this thinking is that the league is now playing prototypical SFs as PFs fairly often.  Maybe even 25-30% of the time.  I like Hunter as a SF but watching him guard Randle lets you know he can bang with a lot of PFs.  

[RedDawg#8]

1 hour ago, Final_quest said:

Completely accurate.  The only wrench in this thinking is that the league is now playing prototypical SFs as PFs fairly often.  Maybe even 25-30% of the time.  I like Hunter as a SF but watching him guard Randle lets you know he can bang with a lot of PFs.  

To me that's always been the nature of a true SF. Even in the old days. SF's are thee most versatile position on the court and  routinely guard up and down a position. I think of Scottie Pippen when I see Dre. His outside shooting and ball handling are strong enough to be a wing, his length and strength are good enough to defend down low. But what sells it for me is his mobility to defend guards. Most cats that get moved to PF cannot keep up with smaller players. Dre stayed with Kyrie about as well as anyone I've seen do it. That's Kawhi/Pippen esque when you talk about defensive versatility. 

[JayBirdHawk]

56 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

But what sells it for me is his mobility to defend guards. Most cats that get moved to PF cannot keep up with smaller players.

[Final_quest]

To me what is changing is the regularity/frequency of three guard lineups where prototypical SFs are playing the 4.  

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[Dexmethylphenidate]

Big 3 in Atlanta - Trae, Collins, Hunter