Do you believe in the Trae Young Rule Yet.

[kg01]

1 minute ago, Sothron said:

Those people are either intentionally biased against Trae to not think a defender running into a ball handler is a foul or they literally know nothing of basketball. There's only two options. Running into the guy with the damn ball in his hands has always been a foul and always will be a foul. Trae Young didn't invent the stop and start to get a foul. Tiny Archibald is the first guy I remember doing it. I definitely remember Isiah Thomas doing it and Mark Price would do it as well. 

Guys in today's game with no hand checking have to commit with their body momentum so much more than previous eras though.  When players now do the stop and start (my Dad taught me that trick in sixth grade, it is what he called it so I'm assuming that's the name for it since he coached basketball) it is more effective because defenders can't have their paws all over you already slowing down your momentum and direction.

Since you can't touch a guy now if you stop and start with an aggressive defender you will get that call. And that's legitimate. It is exactly the same thing as a charging foul except it is on offense. It draws a legit foul and it forces the defender to give you a little more space as the ball handler.

There's absolutely nothing wrong it. Trae isn't doing the stop and start every time down the court. He knows exactly when to do it and it gives him a little more breathing room as a result. This is basketball IQ at its finest.

Agree with all this.  And I don't even mind people being intentionally biased-against.  Just own it though.  Don't try to pretend it's not happening.

That'd be like me pretending I want to see the Heat win anything. 

[Final_quest]

It was a relief to get that call on the brake check.  The other foul they were questioning was the three pointer.  SVG basically said it shouldn’t be a foul.  
Getting one call on one brake check doesn’t settle this for me.  A lot of other fouls were not called and Trae was passing out of non calls while he was up in the air.  
Gonna need to watch this play out a few more games.  That 3 SVG questioned was not an awkward motion at all.  The whistle was very late.  Still some BS to come I think.

[macdaddy]

Well the brake and rise up from Trae is exactly the play the NBA released to show what will still be a defensive foul.   so it's going to be hard not to call that one. 

[bird_dirt]

4 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Just like cars if you are the car in front you can break at anytime and if they hit you from behind it’s on them. But you just can’t put it in reverse.

@hazer thank you. The Curry/Harden rule. Trae doesn’t do that. 

Perfect analogy

[Jdawgflow]

9 hours ago, AHF said:

This was a pretty incredible low FT game.  Trae got 5 of the Hawks total 9 FTA.  Luka got 4 of the Mavs total 13 FTA.

I have to admit that I thoroughly enjoyed the pace of play and less stop/start with decreasing the foul calls.  If their goal was to improve enjoyment of watching the game with the new rules then I am all for it.

[HawkingAwesome]

hack a trae but you don't get called

[Gray Mule]

20 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

Just like cars if you are the car in front you can break at anytime and if they hit you from behind it’s on them. But you just can’t put it in reverse.

@hazer thank you. The Curry/Harden rule. Trae doesn’t do that. 

Yes.  Having sold insurance for 20 years or so I know how this works.  If the vehicle in front of you comes to a stop, you must also stop without hitting them.  If you hit them, it's your fault.

Trae can come to a quick stop.  If a defender hits him from behind, he is at fault.  

[hazer]

[hazer]

 

Again  

Edited October 24, 2021 by hazer

[JayBirdHawk]

In two games so far, freethrow attempts

Hawks 24...Opponents 40.

This is something to monitor VERY CLOSELY.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 Well, well, well...how the turntables.

Ajayi Browne: Steve Nash believes James Harden is unfairly treated by the new rules of the league concerning foul calls. He calls him the “poster boy” of the new rule.

 

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[kg01]

11 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

In two games so far, freethrow attempts

Hawks 24...Opponents 40.

This is something to monitor VERY CLOSELY.

 

I get the rules changed but what I'm actually seeing is ref-revenge being taken out.

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 Well, well, well...how the turntables.

Ajayi Browne: Steve Nash believes James Harden is unfairly treated by the new rules of the league concerning foul calls. He calls him the “poster boy” of the new rule.

Ayo Steve ....

ETA: For my ongoing war, I may borrow your link and joke, jayu ...

Edited October 25, 2021 by kg01

[JayBirdHawk]

5 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I get the rules changed but what I'm actually seeing is ref-revenge being taken out.

Ayo Steve ....

ETA: For my ongoing war, I may borrow your link and joke, jayu ...

Go right ahead, finger at the ready for the incoming And1 

[marco102]

You reep what you sow Steve.  

If he had never made news with Trae Young, maybe his foul merchant would still be getting the calls. 

Edited October 25, 2021 by marco102

[NBASupes]

He's an idiot for the not Basketball shit although Trae was spamming that shit early last season. 

[Spud2nique]

So Nash says it wasn’t basketball when Trae does it, now he’s whining for Harden? @capstone21 wtheck your countryman is a fraud a phony a hack eh? 

 

[benhillboy]

On 10/22/2021 at 9:54 PM, Jdawgflow said:

I have to admit that I thoroughly enjoyed the pace of play and less stop/start with decreasing the foul calls.  If their goal was to improve enjoyment of watching the game with the new rules then I am all for it.

Amen.  FTs league wide are below 20 per game for the first time in history and it’s absolutely glorious.  The ones complaining are the ones without the wherewithal to play physical defense and circumvent foul calls themselves.  It’s early but I gotta tout any defensive strides Trae makes: currently 12th in defensive plays per foul.  Who was 12th last season?  Rudy freaking Gobert.

Edited October 25, 2021 by benhillboy

[marco102]

2 hours ago, benhillboy said:

Amen.  FTs league wide are below 20 per game for the first time in history and it’s absolutely glorious.  The ones complaining are the ones without the wherewithal to play physical defense and circumvent foul calls themselves.  It’s early but I gotta tout any defensive strides Trae makes: currently 12th in defensive plays per foul.  Who was 12th last season?  Rudy freaking Gobert.

I don't mind physical basketball and less freethrows, but what happened in Cleveland grinded my gears. Let both teams be physical.

[MarylandHawk]

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 Well, well, well...how the turntables.

Ajayi Browne: Steve Nash believes James Harden is unfairly treated by the new rules of the league concerning foul calls. He calls him the “poster boy” of the new rule.

 

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Be careful what you ask for…

[macdaddy]

12 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 Well, well, well...how the turntables.

Ajayi Browne: Steve Nash believes James Harden is unfairly treated by the new rules of the league concerning foul calls. He calls him the “poster boy” of the new rule.

 

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Well I'll say he warned us.