2020-21 The Current Ask Supes

[JTB]

If the numbers worked. I would give up Bogi, Huerter, & our first rd pick for Beal.

But only if we could somehow get back into the late first to select a SG.

 

I wouldn’t include Cam or Hunter in any deal and I hardly want to include Huerter in any deal but Beal is more talented than both Huerter and Bogi regardless of who wants to admit it. So in my scenario if it worked anyways….I’d get rid of my two guards to bring in a star guard.

 

salary cap wise this probably doesn’t work but just my two cents if they really want Beal and heve the opportunity. I trust schlenk to make the right decisions 

[NBASupes]

15 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Okay I understand. These are all unified thoughts. Dude that's complicated.  

Very. Toronto's plans are generally always complex. 

[Spud2nique]

3 hours ago, thecampster said:

3). I can confirm that backup PG is their number 1 priority in the draft,

Nope. BPA, if it happens to be a backup point then so be it. Schlenk always goes BPA so if Murphy slips it’ll be him and not a point guard. So you really can’t confirm it. 

[sturt]

Can't get excited about Beal. He makes some tough shots, but he doesn't make his teammates better. Too often see him taking shots when someone wearing the same jersey had an easier one, and he just wouldn't give up the ball.

[thecampster]

1 minute ago, Spud2nique said:

Nope. BPA, if it happens to be a backup point then so be it. Schlenk always goes BPA so if Murphy slips it’ll be him and not a point guard. So you really can’t confirm it. 

That doesn't mean they will draft a PG it means that all things being equal, they'll choose PG before anything else. If no quality PG exists, of course they'll choose other but their number one priority this offseason is solidifying their PG position going forward. Deciding on both the primary backup and developmental PG positions. Yes, that is something I was able to nail down and share.

 

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, thecampster said:

That doesn't mean they will draft a PG it means that all things being equal, they'll choose PG before anything else.

Ok then say that. The way you said it initially was a blanket statement of Schlenk choosing a point guard no matter what. 

 

2 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Yes, that is something I

 

[thecampster]

7 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Nope. BPA, if it happens to be a backup point then so be it. Schlenk always goes BPA so if Murphy slips it’ll be him and not a point guard. So you really can’t confirm it. 

You also cut off the quote which means I may not have been clear.

" I can confirm that backup PG is their number 1 priority in the draft, F/A, pick up games in the neighborhood, trade, games of horse after practice. They are looking everywhere for Trae's backup."

Edited July 27, 2021 by thecampster

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, thecampster said:

You also cut o

I’ve never. 

Edited July 27, 2021 by Spud2nique

[JTB]

20 minutes ago, sturt said:

Can't get excited about Beal. He makes some tough shots, but he doesn't make his teammates better. Too often see him taking shots when someone wearing the same jersey had an easier one, and he just wouldn't give up the ball.

I wouldn’t judge him based on what was put around him in Washington 

[sturt]

19 minutes ago, thecampster said:

They are looking everywhere for Trae's backup."

 

 

 

 

Well, not every where. Surely not Europe.

 

[Spud2nique]

17 minutes ago, sturt said:

 

 

 

 

Well, not every where. Surely not Europe.

 

No I believe they might be looking in Europe, not that guy though. 

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, JTB said:

If the numbers worked. I would give up Bogi, Huerter, & our first rd pick for Beal.

They'd also have to include Dunn (I think) to make the money work.

Beal's one year contract is problematic for me...if he declines his option and decides to go elsewhere it's bad asset management.

 

[macdaddy]

10 hours ago, NBASupes said:

I am told Atlanta and Toronto is coveting Daniel Theis as a FA.

Had to go back a few pages but i hope this is true.  I've been pushing this train for a while now.  Maybe he's too expensive but he seems overlooked to me.   

[bleachkit]

1 hour ago, sturt said:

Can't get excited about Beal. He makes some tough shots, but he doesn't make his teammates better. Too often see him taking shots when someone wearing the same jersey had an easier one, and he just wouldn't give up the ball.

He's not a good fit for us, at all. Maybe we are doing due diligence to guage value, but no way does TS pull the trigger on this deal. Every summer we do this, have these long discussions about trades that aren't going to happen. 

[NBASupes]

7 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Had to go back a few pages but i hope this is true.  I've been pushing this train for a while now.  Maybe he's too expensive but he seems overlooked to me.   

From what I am hearing, he should be in the 4-5 million range which is our range. 

[sturt]

6 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

Maybe he's too expensive

[sturt]

Fwiw... at least until HoopsRumors does their annual projections which might be better...

 

[NBASupes]

13 minutes ago, sturt said:

Fwiw... at least until HoopsRumors does their annual projections which might be better...

 

John base everything off of analytics, he had Whiteside at 17 million and Dunn at 10 million last year. 

[JTB]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

They'd also have to include Dunn (I think) to make the money work.

Beal's one year contract is problematic for me...if he declines his option and decides to go elsewhere it's bad asset management.

 

I don’t disagree. Either way I’m good with going after him or not going after him.

Kinda stuck in between 

1 hour ago, bleachkit said:

He's not a good fit for us, at all. Maybe we are doing due diligence to guage value, but no way does TS pull the trigger on this deal. Every summer we do this, have these long discussions about trades that aren't going to happen. 

What else are we supposed to do ? 

[kg01]

Beal strikes me as that melo type that checks the stat sheet for his scoring numbers then lingers long enough to happen upon the part where it says whether the Zards won or lost.

"Oh we won?  Thas wassup!"