Clarifying the playoff push

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

So for us to get the #4 seed we would need to win Sunday and have both the Heat and Knicks go 2-0 OR 1-1.

 

[bleachkit]

3 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

So for us to get the #4 seed we would need to win Sunday and have both the Heat and Knicks go 2-0 OR 1-1.

 

or 0-2

[RedDawg#8]

If we win out, we only need the knicks to lose 1 to clinch 4.

Either everyone win out, or we have to finish a game above the Knicks. A tie with Miami favors us in every scenario.

 

Edited May 14, 2021 by RedDawg#8

[REHawksFan]

9 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

So for us to get the #4 seed we would need to win Sunday and have both the Heat and Knicks go 2-0 OR 1-1.

 

There's other scenarios that they don't mention.  

Hawks 1-0, Heat 2-0, Knicks 1-1 would give Hawks 4, Heat 5, Knicks 6 as well. Also if either team goes 0-2 the Hawks would be either the 4 or 5. 

 

Also, there's an interesting scenario developing with Milwaukee that could impact the Hawks.  The Bucks are 1 game back of BKN and 2 back of Philly.  They can't fall past 3 but could theoretically advance as high as 1 since they hold the tie break over both teams.  BUT, here's something interesting:

BKN hosts Chicago on Saturday at 1:00 and hosts Cleveland on Sunday.

Bucks host Heat on Saturday at 8:00 and then play at Chicago on Sunday

Philly hosts Orlando twice.  

IF the Nets beat the Bulls early on Saturday, the odds of the Bucks getting to either 1 or 2 are slim at best given the remaining opponents of each.  So the Bucks would be overwhelmingly likely to be the 3 seed at the start of their game with the Heat.  That puts their potential opponents as Heat, Knicks, or Hawks with the Heat and Knicks being most likely (Atl would have to lose to Houston to fall to 6).  

When Bucks play Heat on Saturday night, they could find themselves in a scenario where a Win would make their 1st round opponent most likely the Heat but a loss would make their opponent most likely the Knicks.  The Bucks lost 2 out of 3 to NYK and have split with Miami but you'd have to think they'd rather play the Knicks with their lack of playoff experience than face the Heat in Round 1.  So do they rest their starters vs the Heat to help avoid the Heat in the playoffs?  A Heat win would almost assure the Hawks of the 4 seed vs the Heat with the Knicks falling to 6.  

 

[Final_quest]

Milwaukee is king maker.  Heat vs Bucks is the key game that decides how this plays out.  Bucks can essentially pick their opponent by winning or losing.  
Unless NY loses to Charlotte at 1 PM.  Then the Bucks can confidently go for the win vs Heat.  

[RedDawg#8]

On 5/14/2021 at 8:36 AM, Final_quest said:

Milwaukee is king maker.  Heat vs Bucks is the key game that decides how this plays out.  Bucks can essentially pick their opponent by winning or losing.  
Unless NY loses to Charlotte at 1 PM.  Then the Bucks can confidently go for the win vs Heat.  

Look out for the Nets v. Bulls game too. Milwaukee is still in play for #2 seed. If the Nets lose that leaves the door open for Milwaukee and likely pushes them to compete harder against Miami to avoid the 3v6 matchup all together. Nets and Bulls also play at 1pm so they will have time to process the result and wrap their mind around what they want/need to do.

[JTB]

Looks like the bucks have all the power here. Very interesting!

bucks lose tonight they will face the knicks rd1 but bucks win tonight they will face the heat rd1 ....LIKELY anyways.

Interestingly the knicks won the season series vs the bucks ...while the heat series is split so far.

Edited May 15, 2021 by JTB

[Guest]

Since NY won today, I'm now pulling for Miami to win their last two games.  Assuming we beat Houston, then we have the #4 seed.  I'm not particularly "afraid" of facing either Miami or NY, but it would be nice to have homecourt advantage and not have to open with two games on the road.  

[JayBirdHawk]

 

just leaving this here.

[hawkman]

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

just leaving this here.

He may regret saying that in the media. Homecourt or not, the Hawks can win that series. 

[Cwell]

18 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

just leaving this here.

smh the first games were under numb skull Pierce. The last one took a Trae ankle injury to escape from. This lowkey makes me want to play them more.

[Spud2nique]

34 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

just leaving this here.

Ya I saw this earlier and just thought it’s some cute banter. Playoffs entire different beast. Julius a noob  

[Jody23]

Looks like the Knicks will get the 4th seed.  Butler is out tonight for the Heat.

[REHawksFan]

3 minutes ago, Jody23 said:

Looks like the Knicks will get the 4th seed.  Butler is out tonight for the Heat.

Just depends on if Bucks want Heat or Knicks. They can certainly lose to the Heat if they want to. 

[Jody23]

True, but Butler being held out makes it very difficult for the Bucks to intentionally lose.

[NBASupes]

The Heat are ducking us

[Jody23]

As soon as they pulled Jimmy Butler from this game, I knew the Heat wanted the Bucks in the first round.  The Hawks will clinch the 5 spot tonight.  Not having homecourt in the first round stinks.

[RedDawg#8]

10 minutes ago, Jody23 said:

As soon as they pulled Jimmy Butler from this game, I knew the Heat wanted the Bucks in the first round.  The Hawks will clinch the 5 spot tonight.  Not having homecourt in the first round stinks.

Clinch?

Celtics can beat NY tomorrow (not likely) and we win 4 outright.

 

[Jody23]

Just now, RedDawg#8 said:

Clinch?

Celtics can beat NY tomorrow (not likely) and we win 4 outright.

 

Yes.   The Hawks clinch a top 5 seed if the Heat lose tonight.  Furthermore, the Celtics are locked in to the 7th seed and have nothing to play for tomorrow.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

1 minute ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Clinch?

Celtics can beat NY tomorrow (not likely) and we win 4 outright.

 

 

With the C's winning and the Hornets losing today, they're assured of the #7 spot.

So there is no incentive whatsoever for the Celtics to play their main guys vs the Knicks.

Kemba, Tatum, and Fournier will all DNP tomorrow.

 

At least we'll get to see our 2nd and 3rd team guys extended minutes tomorrow, as they prepare to go to New York for Game 1.