Spud2nique Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, Sothron said: Just quoting this to show that I reported this BEFORE anyone else did by three days. Not only did I like it, I believe you…. annnnnnnnddd… COME HERE YOUUUUUU!!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, kg01 said: I won't fight you too much on it but I'd say the idea that "every team he's gone to has improved" is a bit strong. He can help a team as a reserve, but I'd stop short at suggesting he alone elevates a team. And, to be clear, I never said his play didn't help. I'm saying his shtick runs it's course and that could take a matter of weeks or months if the actual frontline guys don't follow his lead. Well when he went to the Clips they were 20th in drating, and when he left them they were 8th. Wolves were 28th in D-rating and moved up to 13th this year with Patrick Beverly, meanwhile the Clips went from 8th to 18th. This year for the Wolves he was third on the team in WAR, first on the team in RAPTOR and third in Box +- and 5th in win shares (fractions away from Antman). So yea, he's a difference maker for sure IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 Suns are just playing games. Hope the Pacers call the bluff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, BeerMan said: Don't know that he is worth that price. AAV of $33+ mil? I guess it's the going rate, but I'm glad we're sticking with Capela if that's the cost. By the way ... welcome new poster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Sothron said: Just quoting this to show that I reported this BEFORE anyone else did by three days. They've been telling us Ayton would be a pacer for over a week... Yall get stuff right but claiming stuff like this as accurate reporting is crazy when everybody has known for a while that the hawks were out and the pacers were gonna offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Dean Walker said: Love it! Good Job Indy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member sturt Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mikey said: They've been telling us Ayton would be a pacer for over a week... Yall get stuff right but claiming stuff like this as accurate reporting is crazy when everybody has known for a while that the hawks were out and the pacers were gonna offer. (aside... been waiting to use this one for so very long... today is a good day... hehe... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Spud2nique said: Not only did I like it, I believe you…. annnnnnnnddd… COME HERE YOUUUUUU!!!! Awwwwwwww.... 1 hour ago, Sothron said: Just quoting this to show that I reported this BEFORE anyone else did by three days. Get em, SothFaceKillah. Aye, all these boys be calling you out when stuff don't happen. Flexx on these boys when it do happen just like you call it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 31 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said: Well when he went to the Clips they were 20th in drating, and when he left them they were 8th. Wolves were 28th in D-rating and moved up to 13th this year with Patrick Beverly, meanwhile the Clips went from 8th to 18th. This year for the Wolves he was third on the team in WAR, first on the team in RAPTOR and third in Box +- and 5th in win shares (fractions away from Antman). So yea, he's a difference maker for sure IMO. Again, I'm not gonna fight you on it. But I'm also not gonna call Pat Beverly a major difference maker/franchise changer. As an aside, I don't believe in all those metrics so none of that impresses me. But that's a whole other conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 Am I wrong I'm thinking, if PHX loses the former #1 pick for nothing, that's some dumbarsery. They knew they didn't want to pay him. Trade him for something before now. Now you're stuck between a rock and a hard place with it. 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, kg01 said: Am I wrong I'm thinking, if PHX loses the former #1 pick for nothing, that's some dumbarsery. They knew they didn't want to pay him. Trade him for something before now. Now you're stuck between a rock and a hard place with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, Mikey said: They've been telling us Ayton would be a pacer for over a week... Yall get stuff right but claiming stuff like this as accurate reporting is crazy when everybody has known for a while that the hawks were out and the pacers were gonna offer. Thank you for saying we get stuff right. I saw no one saying he was going to the Pacers before I heard it first from my two sources. I asked the other insiders about it and went ahead with what I had heard. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg01 Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, sturt said: That clown forces people to call him "Champ". Clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member sturt Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 minute ago, kg01 said: That clown forces people to call him "Champ". Clown. He's been called Champ since he was 8 years old. Leave him alone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleachkit Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, kg01 said: Am I wrong I'm thinking, if PHX loses the former #1 pick for nothing, that's some dumbarsery. They knew they didn't want to pay him. Trade him for something before now. Now you're stuck between a rock and a hard place with it. They still have time to work out a sign and trade, by midnight actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Sothron said: Thank you for saying we get stuff right. I saw no one saying he was going to the Pacers before I heard it first from my two sources. I asked the other insiders about it and went ahead with what I had heard. Phoenix talk show host on July 6. Also has another tweet about it. Things got held up with Brogdon physical but this guy and people Jake Fischer brought on were all over this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dean Walker Posted July 14, 2022 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 Would you guys do this?? I would! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kg01 Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 Heyul nawl! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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