Official Game Thread: Bucks at Hawks

[kg01]

4 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

OT:

Hubie Brown is awesome . I remember about 33 or so years ago watching him do a CBS Xmas day game of the Cavs at the Hawks. 
 

I thought he was an older guy then. I don’t know how old he is but he looks great and his mind is still very sharp. Hubie!!!!

He's the absolute best imo. 

[Diesel]

5 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

OT:

Hubie Brown is awesome . I remember about 33 or so years ago watching him do a CBS Xmas day game of the Cavs at the Hawks. 
 

I thought he was an older guy then. I don’t know how old he is but he looks great and his mind is still very sharp. Hubie!!!!

Hubie knows the game.   Him broadcasting is like letting Tiger Woods call a golf game.   Hubie knows exactly what guys are doing or what they are supposed to be doing.   It has to be humbling to whoever is on the call with him because he basically is watching the game and predicting what happens... and HE'S NOT A HOMER.  We were down by ~20 last night and Hubie was talking about some of the good things we were doing (this was during our 3rd quarter run).   I have listened to others go off on tangents and talk about Lebron or something irrelevant to the game on the floor... 

He's just THE BEST.

 

[NBASupes]

8 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

I thought about 4 weeks ago, a mini-power struggle was going on between Trae and Dejounte.  Maybe not in Trae's eyes, but definitely in Dejounte's eyes.  What Dejounte needs to do, is understand his role.  Trae is the lead guard.  He is the secondary guard.  We need Dejounte to lock in defensively, and not let guys like Jrue Holiday go off for 27 points. 

Sometimes we need his scoring, and if he has it going, by all means keep shooting the ball.  But if we need him to make the hockey assist to get it to a better shooter or a man closer to the rim, do that too.

As much as people love to rag on Trae, Dejounte does not have Trae's offensive skill set.  If that midrange jumper isn't falling, it's almost if his entire offensive game is null and void.  Until he becomes willing to take a hit and get to the line, he's going to be limited offensively.  So he needs to be that all-around guard that can be the glue to this team.

I felt his defense was good yesterday. Jrue was making tough baskets regardless of who was guarding him outside of Bogi who got cooked 

[Diesel]

13 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I felt his defense was good yesterday. Jrue was making tough baskets regardless of who was guarding him outside of Bogi who got cooked 

This is the truth.   IN those last.. I say 4 minutes,   Jrue Holiday became Allstar Jrue Holiday.   He hit one shot over Hunter that I said... Sheez.. it's over...   He's hitting shots from behind the backboard.   He's hitting shots in the midrange.    And his shots opened the floor for everybody else. 

Milwaukee tried to beat us down the way they normally beat us down...  Giannis/Lopez  or Giannis/crazyeyes on the floor and just dump into the post and muscle over us.  Shorthanded.. last night.. that didn't work.   That's why I'm not mad at our defense.   But the gathering of rebounds helped to kill us. 

People on here are crying about Isoball.  IF you can't stop the team on the other end, it doesn't matter what offensive set you run... and in those last 3 minutes, we couldn't stop them.  I haven't looked at the charts.. but I would venture that Milwaukee got points everytime they went down.  That's inclusive of misses and Offensive rebounds and a retry.  That's where we lost. 

 

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

9 hours ago, Wretch said:

Hold on.  Can ya'll rewind a little bit.  I need to grab my notepad...

*clicks pen*

Ok.  Soooo....are we officially hating Dejounte now or is this like, spur of the moment/knee jerk hating?

Lol.  I'm just noting the two things that I expected him to keep doing here that he did in SAS. Rebound and Drive the ball. Both are trending down.

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

 

[Gray Mule]

The starters VS The bench:

Every starter had a (-) in the box score.

Every bench player had a (+) in the box score.

Hawks were buried deep.  The bench came in and rescued us.  Hawks played like a real NBA team.  Knowing all this, please explain why we stopped play (Time out) and made sure we had all five starters in the game for the final three minutes??

Yes, we did!  Challenge!  Go back and check the tape.

[AtLaS]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

This is the truth.   IN those last.. I say 4 minutes,   Jrue Holiday became Allstar Jrue Holiday.   He hit one shot over Hunter that I said... Sheez.. it's over...   He's hitting shots from behind the backboard.   He's hitting shots in the midrange.    And his shots opened the floor for everybody else. 

Milwaukee tried to beat us down the way they normally beat us down...  Giannis/Lopez  or Giannis/crazyeyes on the floor and just dump into the post and muscle over us.  Shorthanded.. last night.. that didn't work.   That's why I'm not mad at our defense.   But the gathering of rebounds helped to kill us. 

People on here are crying about Isoball.  IF you can't stop the team on the other end, it doesn't matter what offensive set you run... and in those last 3 minutes, we couldn't stop them.  I haven't looked at the charts.. but I would venture that Milwaukee got points everytime they went down.  That's inclusive of misses and Offensive rebounds and a retry.  That's where we lost. 

 

 

 

Our defense/rebounding and overall effort sucks.  The reality is that we don't box out, which is purely effort.  Opponent shoots the ball and our guys watch the ball all the way to the rim and then try to outjump their opponent for the rebound.  That doesn't work.  You have to BOX OUT your man.  But our players seem a bit too entitled to get physical and put in the effort to actually box someone out.

It's so frustrating to watch something so easy to fix.  When I played school ball we would be immediately yanked out of the game for not boxing out.  Like immediately.  Like is Nate even on these guys about that?  

Isoball works sometimes, but it can't be your goto for every critical situation.  There are times for it and that's OK, but it seems to be our fallback in every scenario.  We don't have the personnel.  You need big size/athleticism/strength to have consistency there.  Trae is too small to be iso'ing for the last 4 minutes of every game, he has to work so hard to get open and routinely will get his shot blocked.  Dejounte definitely ain't an ISO guy, and neither is anyone else on the team.

 

[RedDawg#8]

51 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Lol.  I'm just noting the two things that I expected him to keep doing here that he did in SAS. Rebound and Drive the ball. Both are trending down.

 

 

It’s a Hawks culture. Our perimeter players don’t put forth the effort to crash the glass. Never have. Murray is now a product of his new environment.  Same with his passing. We aren’t creative enough on offense to take advantage of 2 elite playmakers. Our culture is centered around one man on offense.

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

He's the absolute best imo. 

Agreed and it’s not even close. I can’t think of a better color analyst. 
 

 

Thanks a lot Spud.

- 

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

He's just THE BEST.

Absolutely. Grew up on listening to him and d*ck Stockton on CBS. What a team? That was probably my fav 1/2 punch of broadcasters ever.

 

ps I hated Rick Barry. He was such a lil brown noser know it all. Ugh.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

This is the truth.   IN those last.. I say 4 minutes,   Jrue Holiday became Allstar Jrue Holiday.   

It’s funny when he was on the block a few years ago from the Pels there were some folks that wanted us to go after him.

I WAS NOT ONE OF THEM.

I WAS DEAD WRONG. 
 

I thought he was a bit overrated. DEAD WRONG. Underrated 2 way player. 
 

Ya, he’s impressive. I also like him because he’s a pros pro. You rarely see him acting super cocky or just showboating at all.

Middleton is another one. Pros pro even though he didn’t play last night, he’s a quiet assassin.

Giannis is another throwback.

 

Giannis, Holiday and Middleton.

These guys could play in the 80’s probably better than any squad out there.

 

I’ve never truly admired ANY Hawks opponents through the years of being a Hawks fan.

I generally HATE the rivals but wow..

Its hard for me to hate on the Bucks.

 DANG IT! I have only myself to blame. If I had just sucked it up in the 80’s and became a fan of Jack Sikma, Danny Schayes, Fred Roberts, Larry Krystowiak, Stevie Henson, Brad Lohaus and company, I’d be a Bucks fan today! 
 

[kg01]

51 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

 

"Yeah but that'd take like ... extra effort er something, bro.  You know I'm just ridin' the clock 'til April, right?" - iRobot 

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

I generally HATE the rivals but wow..

Its hard for me to hate on the Bucks.

Bro, I got you.  I can change your mind in 2 words ..... Grayson.  Allen.

You're welcome. 

[JayBirdHawk]

Murray had an off game but no need to panic.  Prior to this game:

 

 

[macdaddy]

Bucks with Middleton are the best team in the east to me and it's not even close.  Without him other teams have a chance.  

This is about as down on a Hawks season as I've been in a while.   Every game is basically the same.  We've got to make some changes.  

[JayBirdHawk]

Just now, macdaddy said:

Every game is basically the same.  We've got to make some changes.  

yep.

What do you want to change?

[Spud2nique]

4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Grayson.  Allen.

Ughhhh, you wanna add on to it with Joe Ingles? That dude dirty AF too. Ok so they have an ugly side. 
 

It’s like that one chick who’s got it all but the non symmetrical boobs.  

[Spud2nique]

You guys see the dude in the back of the broadcast team last night? Dude was mad thirsty for airtime 

[kg01]

1 minute ago, Spud2nique said:

You guys see the dude in the back of the broadcast team last night? Dude was mad thirsty for airtime 

Who does that?  Probably a UGA fan.

#ShotsFiredButYouKnowImRite