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[NBASupes]

41 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

@NBASupes  What's the word on Boston re: Hayward and Smart...any rumors?

Nothing for now. Maybe that will change around the draft but Boston is not interested in Oladipo is all I got for now. 

[NBASupes]

Update:

My guy feels like there are smoke to Brooklyn or LAL for Oladipo and even LAC is considering as well but Indiana still doesn't want to trade Oladipo for lower tier assets or take on a bad contract for a larger mid asset at all. 

He said he thinks Indy wants LaMelo Ball bad and will likely overpay for him due to Oladipo forcing their hand. That said Indy wants Oladipo in a larger sum of parts deal for a quality prospect, not as a showcase piece for lower end assets. 

MIN has been reluctant to do a deal with Indy having high demands. 

As for MIN, they have offers for 1st overall but they aren't really that good by their standard is what I got. They want what my guy stated is a clear overpay industry wide. 

We will see what happens. Indy is the most active team that's in the playoffs. Other teams like the Clippers, Sixers and Raptors have been active as well. Some think the Raptors could do a big deal for Oladipo too but there has been no real offers yet from Toronto. 

Nets want Oladipo but are only willing to trade Prince/Temple/19. Indy hasn't been receptive and wants more at this time.

[Dean Walker]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Update:

My guy feels like there are smoke to Brooklyn or LAL for Oladipo and even LAC is considering as well but Indiana still doesn't want to trade Oladipo for lower tier assets or take on a bad contract for a larger mid asset at all. 

He said he thinks Indy wants LaMelo Ball bad and will likely overpay for him due to Oladipo forcing their hand. That said Indy wants Oladipo in a larger sum of parts deal for a quality prospect, not as a showcase piece for lower end assets. 

MIN has been reluctant to do a deal with Indy having high demands. 

As for MIN, they have offers for 1st overall but they aren't really that good by their standard is what I got. They want what my guy stated is a clear overpay industry wide. 

We will see what happens. Indy is the most active team that's in the playoffs. Other teams like the Clippers, Sixers and Raptors have been active as well. Some think the Raptors could do a big deal for Oladipo too but there has been no real offers yet from Toronto. 

Nets want Oladipo but are only willing to trade Prince/Temple/19. Indy hasn't been receptive and wants more at this time.

Don’t like the Oladipo nets fit unless Kd moved to the 4 permanently.

kyrie/Oladipo/Caris/I’d/Dj

 

 

[capstone21]

11 minutes ago, Dean Walker said:

Don’t like the Oladipo nets fit unless Kd moved to the 4 permanently.

kyrie/Oladipo/Caris/I’d/Dj

 

 

With two ball hogs like KD and Irving ... they need to surround them with defensive role players.

[Dean Walker]

2 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

With two ball hogs like KD and Irving ... they need to surround them with defensive role players.

Yep

[kg01]

49 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

With two ball hogs like KD and Irving ... they need to surround them with defensive role players.

Yep.  I don't see that experiment working so well, honestly.

[capstone21]

3 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Yep.  I don't see that experiment working so well, honestly.

Me either as I think Irving is one of the most overrated players in the league and KD is now coming off another season ending injury.

[kg01]

1 minute ago, capstone21 said:

Me either as I think Irving is one of the most overrated players in the league and KD is now coming off another season ending injury.

Kyme is clearly talented but he's also clearly divisive.  I feel it's only a matter of time before he and durant are at odds.  Once that happens, that's all she wrote for them because BKN is all-in on them two.

[capstone21]

39 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Kyme is clearly talented but he's also clearly divisive.  I feel it's only a matter of time before he and durant are at odds.  Once that happens, that's all she wrote for them because BKN is all-in on them two.

He is absolutely a talented scorer but that’s it.  He doesn’t make his team or teammates better and the fact that he is a point guard he doesn’t run an offense....

[bleachkit]

3 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

He is absolutely a talented scorer but that’s it.  He doesn’t make his team or teammates better and the fact that he is a point guard he doesn’t run an offense....

I think Trae should look at Kyrie as a cautionary tale. Don't end up a divisive, defensively challenged stat padder bouncing from team to team. I dont think that will happen, but it could if he refuses to evolve. Either way he'll be richer than Croesus.

[kg01]

18 minutes ago, capstone21 said:

He is absolutely a talented scorer but that’s it.  He doesn’t make his team or teammates better and the fact that he is a point guard he doesn’t run an offense....

This is interesting.  Maybe he would've been better off cast as a 6th man gunner?

[MaceCase]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

This is interesting.  Maybe he would've been better off cast as a 6th man gunner?

He was perfectly cast as a secondary player but his ego wouldn't accept it.  We've seen not one but two teams now that worked to lessen his responsibilities allowing him to focus solely on what he does best (score) and he bristled at the mere suggestion because he feels (felt?) he can do so much moar!

[RedDawg#8]

Kyrie, like Jimmy, just needs to land in the right culture that matches his personality.

KD actually may be a great fit with him as they both are a little bit anti establishment personality wise. And they get to create their own culture up in Brooklyn 

[MaceCase]

4 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

Kyrie, like Jimmy, just needs to land in the right culture that matches his personality.

KD actually may be a great fit with him as they both are a little bit anti establishment personality wise. And they get to create their own culture up in Brooklyn 

I don’t know about that.  Jimmy’s issue is that he worked his ass off from nothing, wants to do everything to win, and can’t fathom how guys who were drafted high in the lottery and/or getting 100s of millions of dollars don’t share that same mindset.  His mentality extends to coaches who don’t demand of their players and front offices/owners that don’t do all in their power to succeed. 
 

Kyrie’s issue is more selfish, he wants all of the accolades that come with being the man but none of the responsibility.  Giving him the green light to take over in a close game? Sign him up.  Expecting him to rally his teammates in a tightly contested series?  You can keep that, he’s there to do his job and they can do theirs and like...does basketball even matter?  The sun will extinguish in 6 billion years.

KD is probably more open to making it work in Brooklyn, the reason he got away from OKC in the first place is that he understands he’s unquestionably the man but he wants teammates whom he can defer to at times.....and who know when to defer back to him....

Remains to be seen if Kyrie truly meant that mea culpa to LeBron but if so, him and KD will be a superior in and out tandem like Styles and ‘Kiss but if Durant catches one whiff of Westbrick 2.0 we’ll be witnessing the passive-aggressive olympics. 

[kg01]

12 minutes ago, MaceCase said:

..... be a superior in and out tandem like Styles and ‘Kiss .....

Really?

Just gon' drop that in and expect folks to just tip around it?

 

Edited September 30, 2020 by kg01

[JayBirdHawk]

@NBASupes...couple questions.

Way back in February at the Trade deadline,

1. Hawks was in discussion for Gallo as part of the proposed Adams trade - are the Hawks interested in him in FAcy?

2. Kevin Love was part of a discussion (the MIN/GSW/HOU deal) with the Hawks offering the OKC 2022 1st - is there still any interest in him as the back up PF?

3. Any discussions regarding the OKC 2022 1st for a decent bench player on a long term deal?

 

 

 

[marco102]

12 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

@NBASupes...couple questions.

Way back in February at the Trade deadline,

1. Hawks was in discussion for Gallo as part of the proposed Adams trade - are the Hawks interested in him in FAcy?

2. Kevin Love was part of a discussion (the MIN/GSW/HOU deal) with the Hawks offering the OKC 2022 1st - is there still any interest in him as the back up PF?

3. Any discussions regarding the OKC 2022 1st for a decent bench player on a long term deal?

 

 

 

I was joking the first time, but I'd rather have Blake Griffin than Kevin L.

Edited September 30, 2020 by marco102

[bird_dirt]

1 hour ago, kg01 said:

Really?

Just gon' drop that in and expect folks to just tip around it?

 

Mace wrote some poetry. 

[kg01]

10 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:

Mace wrote some poetry. 

He did.  Just don't tell him i said that.

[Marvin24Williams]

@NBASupes Any draft news? Such as some prospects the Hawks are quite high on right now