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[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, KB21 said:

Why would the Hawks want Wiggins?  He’s a negative player who will not help this team win in any way.  Bad shooter, poor defender....etc.

In order to complete the deal for D'lo, GS/MIN needs a 3rd team that can eat the bulk of the salary and save them money. 

Just now, LucastheThird said:

That is a strong move for us, still leaves room to get Adams too. Who would start in that scenario? JC or Love or Adams to come off the bench?

Love would come off the bench. Since he can play the 4 and 5. He fits perfectly in our rotation. 

Edited February 3, 2020 by NBASupes

[LucastheThird]

2 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

 

Love would come off the bench. Since he can play the 4 and 5. He fits perfectly in our rotation. 

 

That is a STRONG frontcourt to play with. Trae would have a field day.

[AHF]

12 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

This is why I say this is a big deal. Even though this is just me speaking. I strongly think D'lo will be traded this week because of the 4x LT issue. 

 

This might happen: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=t6yyfm4

Obviously, Minny has to get the picks for Covington and agree on their personal protection of their pick but Atlanta can steal Wiggins due to helping with the salary issues. 

Does "steal Wiggins" mean "voluntarily stab yourself in the leg" in this context?

[JayBirdHawk]

Something is getting lost in translation with your notes @NBASupes

Break it down please:

What are the Hawks giving, what are they getting??

11 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

In order to complete the deal for D'lo, GS/MIN needs a 3rd team that can eat the bulk of the salary and save them money. 

Love would come off the bench. Since he can play the 4 and 5. He fits perfectly in our rotation. 

Would Love accept coming off the bench?

[NBASupes]

3 minutes ago, AHF said:

Does "steal Wiggins" mean "voluntarily stab yourself in the leg" in this context?

Get him for free is what I mean but yeah, some players you might not want, even for free. 

[kg01]

10 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

In order to complete the deal for D'lo, GS/MIN needs a 3rd team that can eat the bulk of the salary and save them money. 

Love would come off the bench. Since he can play the 4 and 5. He fits perfectly in our rotation. 

Speaking of money, the Jabari Young story about the Rockets looking to shed salary has hit our friends on Clutchfans pretty hard.  They so arrogantly wanted all our first-borns for Capela, which was completely ridiculous all along.  Even more so now that we know the motivations for shopping Capela are to save money.

[capstone21]

I don't mind adding Love but it is also adding another TERRBLE defender.  

[REHawksFan]

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Something is getting lost in translation with your notes @NBASupes

Break it down please:

What are the Hawks giving, what are they getting??

Would Love accept coming off the bench?

Yeah.....one post @NBASupes say Hawks steal Wiggins, then in another he shows Trade Machine with Wiggins to Cavs and Love to Atl. Don't make no sense. 

[NBASupes]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Something is getting lost in translation with your notes @NBASupes

Break it down please:

What are the Hawks giving, what are they getting??

In order for GS to meet their LT goals (right now their 4LX is 75 million), MIN to get D'Lo salary wise, MIN has to trade Wiggins. Nothing less will do and GS has to take him. But obvious GS doesn't want Wiggins contract, AT ALL. So this deal can't get done unless someone wants to take Wiggins. There are some teams who will take Wiggins but can they give GS the cap savings to do the deal and do they want Wiggins contract. Cleveland can do it as well but the issue is, they would have to give up Thompson/Windler and Zizic. That's an easy no from Cleveland plus Wiggins and Love making a combined 58 million would be a killer. 

Atlanta can do the deal, give up fillers and take on Wiggins with ease. Now the question is, does Atlanta want Wiggins. Likely not but Cleveland does so it would work out. 

Atlanta deal saves them 10 million and gives them a chance to get in the Aaron Gordon market in June. Any deal for D'lo is depending on their trade of Covington 

[JayBirdHawk]

5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

In order for GS to meet their LT goals (right now their 4LX is 75 million), MIN to get D'Lo salary wise, MIN has to trade Wiggins. Nothing less will do and GS has to take him. But obvious GS doesn't want Wiggins contract, AT ALL. So this deal can't get done unless someone wants to take Wiggins. There are some teams who will take Wiggins but can they give GS the cap savings to do the deal and do they want Wiggins contract. Cleveland can do it as well but the issue is, they would have to give up Thompson/Windler and Zizic. That's an easy no from Cleveland plus Wiggins and Love making a combined 58 million would be a killer. 

Atlanta can do the deal, give up fillers and take on Wiggins with ease. Now the question is, does Atlanta want Wiggins. Likely not but Cleveland does so it would work out. 

Atlanta deal saves them 10 million and gives them a chance to get in the Aaron Gordon market in June. Any deal for D'lo is depending on their trade of Covington 

What's our incentive to take on Wiggins from Minny or GSW, (not that I want Wiggins).

Even if we are sending him to the Cavs for Love - which I'm not a fan of.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

@NBASupes. Any interest in Bembry

[txsting]

1 hour ago, KB21 said:

Neither one of those draft picks will help this team win next season.  You are wanting a top 3 pick in a draft that doesn’t have a legitimate top 3 pick in it.

You don't get it; for one you have no clue who could be great out of this draft; and in the second place the third pick has triple the trade value of the 10th pick.  So if you want to trade for someone to make us good next year, add assets, add assets, add assets.

[NBASupes]

10 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

@NBASupes. Any interest in Bembry

As a standalone, no. 

[NBASupes]

24 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

What's our incentive to take on Wiggins from Minny or GSW, (not that I want Wiggins).

Even if we are sending him to the Cavs for Love - which I'm not a fan of.

 

Cap reasons. We can take on Wiggins and give up to 6 million in savings for GS. That has massive value. 

[Buzzard]

This works then just add in Houston pick and either Nets pick or a protected 1st from us.

Hawks send Parker to Minnesota and a pick

Hawks send Len to Houston

Hawks get Capella.

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Houston sends a pick to Minnesota

Houston sends Capella to us

Houston gets Covington and Len

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Minnesota sends Covington to Houston

Minnesota gets Parker, some cap relief even if Parker opts in, and two 1st.

Edited February 3, 2020 by Buzzard

[Spud2nique]

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Cap reasons. We can take on Wiggins and give up to 6 million in savings for GS. That has massive value. 

I’ll do anything in my power not to help Golden State. Lol. Schlenk don’t do it.

[macdaddy]

Just now, Spud2nique said:

I’ll do anything in my power not to help Golden State. Lol. Schlenk don’t do it.

you have a bias for sure but really shouldn't the whole league adopt this position since it's an egregious one year tank.

[High5]

Minnesota isn't unloading Wiggins unless they attach KAT or about 7 FRP. 

[NBASupes]

Just now, High5 said:

Minnesota isn't unloading Wiggins unless they attach KAT or about 7 FRP. 

Not without Travie's help 

[JayBirdHawk]

9 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

Cap reasons. We can take on Wiggins and give up to 6 million in savings for GS. That has massive value. 

I understand the cap saving for GSW...why would the Hawks, what's our incentive?

What are we getting to do that?  Love can't be the answer.