Official Game Thread: Hawks at Magic

[Spud2nique]

Nice win. We did what we we supposed to do. Cam had some nice 3’s. We are even Steven at .500, 14-14, let’s streak a bit shall we? 
 

The Capela gobble block was sweet. Speaking of sweet, Lou heard us talkin and he showed out tonight.

Nuggets on Friday!

Go Hawks!

ps Collins is workin this year, hope he gets  that all star nod, we need to get more wins so he gets a legit chance to get in.

[Final_quest]

5 hours ago, marco102 said:

Reminds me of Yogi Berra, “Ninety percent of the game is 50% mental.”  Dude has so much talent, but if you don’t believe in yourself as a professional athlete you’re not going to perform up to your potential.  Actually that insight gives a lot of understanding to the inconsistency we see with Cam.

Josh Smith had a false confidence that lead to great results at times, but also a lot of wtf moments.  It’s almost like Cam has the opposite, false doubt.  

I actually think false confidence is a better flaw than false doubt.  As a father I hear a lot of pain in Cam’s mentality.  Wow, this explains what I’ve felt is off with Cam, it’s hard to fix if it is deeply rooted in your mindset.  Person to person my heart goes out to Cam.  

[aali34]

10 hours ago, marco102 said:

It's been like that for a while. Hard to tell if he has higher expectations for himself or if he's riddled in self-doubt.

He's been playing decent so far this season.

 

[JayBirdHawk]

12 hours ago, marco102 said:

I really need Cam to get out of his own head. Relax and just play basketball, there is no perfection in basketball.

JC is a funny dude.

[Sothron]

Kinda says something that when we win a game by a comfortable margin the page thread right now is 7 pages long. We lose a close game and the page count is double that from these "fans" that only show up to hate on the Hawks or Trae or Bogi or whatever the target is at the moment. 

Just sad to me.

[kg01]

12 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Kinda says something that when we win a game by a comfortable margin the page thread right now is 7 pages long. We lose a close game and the page count is double that from these "fans" that only show up to hate on the Hawks or Trae or Bogi or whatever the target is at the moment. 

Just sad to me.

For some people, complaining is more fun than celebrating.  It's not just a squawk phenomenon though.

In fairness to 'les miserables' though, there is generally more to say after losses than wins.  It's not just the haters descending upon us.

[AHF]

42 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Kinda says something that when we win a game by a comfortable margin the page thread right now is 7 pages long. We lose a close game and the page count is double that from these "fans" that only show up to hate on the Hawks or Trae or Bogi or whatever the target is at the moment. 

Just sad to me.

Don't be sad.  Just be happy the Hawks won, righted the ship to .500, and have help getting closer by the day with OO knocking on the door as we speak.  This team hasn't shown the potential to be the true contender we all hoped to see this season but they still look solidly on track to make the playoffs and there is a lot of season left to get into a better place to compete once the post-season starts.  Plenty of reason to expect this team to be materially better in a month than they are today.  Reason to enjoy the wins as they come and look forward to some good Hawks basketball.  If some people won't be satisfied if they fail to achieve the "true contender" status alongside the Bucks, Nets, Warriors, Suns, etc. then so be it.  You can't control that and a 46-38 season won't please everyone.

[Gray Mule]

52 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Kinda says something that when we win a game by a comfortable margin the page thread right now is 7 pages long. We lose a close game and the page count is double that from these "fans" that only show up to hate on the Hawks or Trae or Bogi or whatever the target is at the moment. 

Just sad to me.

When posters are satisfied with a win, they don't post.  A loss is another thing altogether!

[Final_quest]

1 hour ago, Sothron said:

Kinda says something that when we win a game by a comfortable margin the page thread right now is 7 pages long. We lose a close game and the page count is double that from these "fans" that only show up to hate on the Hawks or Trae or Bogi or whatever the target is at the moment. 

Just sad to me.

Should there be more posts about a casual win over a team like Orlando vs 4 straight home game collapses? That loss to Houston demanded a lot of reaction.  

[bleachkit]

1 hour ago, Sothron said:

Kinda says something that when we win a game by a comfortable margin the page thread right now is 7 pages long. We lose a close game and the page count is double that from these "fans" that only show up to hate on the Hawks or Trae or Bogi or whatever the target is at the moment. 

Just sad to me.

Yes and no. So yes there are a few haters that exclusively come out from under the rock when we lose. But it's also true, when we lose there is always question of why. That in turn generates heated debate,  which leads to longer threads.

[macdaddy]

8 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Yes and no. So yes there are a few haters that exclusively come out from under the rock when we lose. But it's also true, when we lose there is always question of why. That in turn generates heated debate,  which leads to longer threads.

Yeah but i guess we could say why we didn't lose.   Players get trashed for bad performances in losses but then when guys like Lou and Cam have really solid games it's crickets.   And we also only call out bad play in losses.   Kev still was not very good last night.  Just no one noticed really.   Although he played ok just couldn't really score. 

Also interesting about Cooper.   I'll admit i wanted him in the game when we were up 20 but when he finally got in he had the predictable rookie mistakes.   Against Orlando we probably can overcome that but we've been shaky enough this year that we can let those get worked out in G league and garbage time.  

Inevitably what's going to happen with Coop and JJ is that when they finally do get their chance and do well, or even ok, folks will be like 'they could have been doing this the whole time'.....well no.  they've been working and improving to get to this point. 

[Dynamo]

Good team win.

[Peoriabird]

I don't celebrate wins or trash the team during a loss.  I evaluate how the team is playing and whether they have started to play winning basketball.  A team can play the exact same way against 2 team and get blown out by one and own the other so its kinda silly to pretend that the problems have somehow disappear because you happened to play one of the worst teams in the league and got an easy victory.  I'm an analyst, many of you are just strictly fans which I don't have a problem with.  I'll be honest with you, I'm very concerned about this team. Not just because of the results but mainly because of the effort or the lack there of.  Also some of the same bad habits continue to haunt certain players which might work occasionally but in the long run they won't.

[aali34]

5 hours ago, kg01 said:

For some people, complaining is more fun than celebrating.  It's not just a squawk phenomenon though.

In fairness to 'les miserables' though, there is generally more to say after losses than wins.  It's not just the haters descending upon us.

I'm the opposite, I tend to participate here less during rough stretches. Ruins my mood and I don't feel like talking about them.

[AHF]

55 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

I'm an analyst, many of you are just strictly fans which I don't have a problem with. 

What does it mean to be an analyst in this context?  Most of us both do analysis around the players, team, roster and coaching while simultaneously having our "fan" hat on with our opinions, hopes and desires for the team but it isn't a binary separation from the way I think about it.  Hence, it suggests you are defining analyst in a different way than I am (I would say an analyst is someone who analyzes a thing and so most here qualify to one degree or another) because there are very few people I would say never analyze things and are therefore "just strictly fans."

Anyone who is a hardcore enough Hawks fan to frequent this site doesn't get limited to "just strictly fans" in my book.

[Spud2nique]

50 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

I'm an analyst,

[Spud2nique]

 @terrell where’s our MM QB!

Why didn’t we sign Garrison Mathews? 

[Peoriabird]

19 minutes ago, AHF said:

Anyone who is a hardcore enough Hawks fan to frequent this site doesn't get limited to "just strictly fans" in my book.

Sorry I disagree.  There are some people that are always high off of bad wins and low after good competitive loses.  I call those people fans because they don't know the difference.  Plus when someone talks about it being a good thing when Trae turns the ball over excessively or takes bad shots...I truly wouldn't classify that person as an analyst.  He is just a fan of Trae Young.

[Diesel]

11 hours ago, Final_quest said:

Should there be more posts about a casual win over a team like Orlando vs 4 straight home game collapses? That loss to Houston demanded a lot of reaction.  

That Houston loss hurts so much because we let them back in.   We didn't execute in the 4th.   Tonight, we did OK in the 4th. 

 

[Spud2nique]

7 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

He is just a fan of Trae Young.

Where is that Dennisfanboy guy lol? Made me think of him.