Official Game Thread: Nets at Hawks

[terrell]

2 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Trae defense is ass and there are too many times he gets tunnel vision on a mission to score 50. Trae might be statistically an all star but his PG skills were better at the end of last year than this year. He is playing too much hero ball for my liking. That said, he is a beast and his amazingness is just normal and expected at this point 

He had Huerter and Collins..lol. His teamates have been  consistently BAD on offense so far this year.

[Plainview1981]

3 hours ago, capstone21 said:

Im tired of giving up 120 - 130 points

I think this is the toughest part about the current NBA game.

[Plainview1981]

3 hours ago, terrell said:

Schlenk?

Collins at #19

Trae at #5

Huerter at #19

Hunter at #4

Cam at #10

JOnes > Spellman

Thats some nice young talent.....

Can we at least wait until the young players develop, and we spend some $ in FA??????

 

He lost the Dallas trade. We’ve been there and done that.

Huerter? Ok role player. The hype surrounding him has yet to ge justified.

Hunter is a decent player, but he doesn’t have the explosiveness to be much better than a 3rd option “glue” kind of player. He has done decent sometimes.

His FA moves are brutal. 

Jones looks ok, but I think part of that is due to the small expectations right now. His flaws would be more apprent if the Hawks were in competitive games.

Turner/Chandler/Carter/Crabbe are so bad. He does FA like Babcock used to draft.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2019 by Plainview1981

[Spud2nique]

Tough loss at home after a win I thought we’d string a couple together. So this was the Cam break out party huh? That’s who we’ve all been waiting to see.  
 

Cam seriously came to play. A few of those moves he made me actually yell out WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOHOOOAAAAAAA!!! And I had to rewind a few of them. The centers showed up as well. Damian and Len looked pretty decent. Bembry and Turner need to regroup and try to contribute more. Bembry 1-9 is unacceptable.

Slowly the pieces are coming together and the big picture looks very promising. Trae has been there all year and again tonight with 39/10 but Hunter came along and now Cam. Huerter will slowly get it going. Hopefully we still have some time to make a playoff run.

Go Hawks! 
 

 

[NBASupes]

I just want all three: Cam/Hunter/Huerter to be ready v. Charlotte. Graham and those boys can play

[Spud2nique]

I thought Cam’s most impressive move actually came on a shot that was blocked by Jarrett Allen outta bounce.

It was about the 4 minute mark of the 4th. Cam took a handoff from Jabari and put a move on Prince and shook him something . 
 

Some of his moves were very Jordanesque. Very niiiice!

[REHawksFan]

6 hours ago, Jody23 said:

Luka is phenomenal, but when I hear people try to say Trae's supporting cast is just as good as his...I want to .

Just to underscore this comment, 13 of 14 Dallas Maverick players are above replacement level based on BPM with 7 of those at league average or better.

For the Hawks, 7 of 14 players are above replacement level with only 5 of those at league average or better (and 1 is Bonehead who isn't even playing now).

So outside of Trae, the Hawks are basically running with 3 guys on the entire team that are league average or better based on BPM: Jones, Parker, and Bembry. All 3 are just BARELY above league average.  The rest of roster breaks down as follows: 

Below league avg but above replacement level - Bruno & Kev

Below replacement level player - Len, Crabbe, Turner, Hunter, Vince, and Cam

 

[enrique]

6 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Whoever Trae was on went into abuse mode.

Watching the highlights off bleacher report this morning they were kind to Trae. They never showed his man gobbling up points. 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

7 hours ago, Jody23 said:

And I'll say this...I am sick of how little credit Trae gets for what he is doing and how the media tries to dismiss it.  Putting up the numbers he's putting up while facing double teams consistently every night because the rest of the roster is sooo baaaadddd is astonishing.  I don't want to hear about the record...Trae Young deserves to be in the All Star game if he continues this level of play.

He's currently having one of the best seasons in NBA history.  When you run the numbers ...

28 ppg - 8 apg - 4 rpg - 38% 3FG

... literally no one in the HISTORY of the NBA has done that. NO ONE.

If you take the 3 point percentage out of the equation, there's only 6 players in NBA history to put up those numbers

- Oscar Robertson ( 8 times )

- James Harden ( 2 )

- Russell Westbrook ( 2 )

- Michael Jordan ( 1 )

- Luke Doncic ( so far this season )

- Trae Young ( so far this season )

 

And Trae is by far the smallest dude on this list.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

7 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Trae defense is ass and there are too many times he gets tunnel vision on a mission to score 50. Trae might be statistically an all star but his PG skills were better at the end of last year than this year. He is playing too much hero ball for my liking. That said, he is a beast and his amazingness is just normal and expected at this point 

LOL @ hero ball. You watch the games just like we do. This team can't even run the offense when he's out of the game. 

And when he's in the game, most of them can't even make shots when he finds them on the perimeter.  

So what is Trae supposed to do? Just let the team die? He's doing what every superstar in the NBA has always done, carry the team offensively when they're struggling.

Now if he were jacking up a bunch of long 3s, and shooting every other possession, that's hero ball to me, because he's just shooting just to be shooting.

[REHawksFan]

23 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

LOL @ hero ball. You watch the games just like we do. This team can't even run the offense when he's out of the game. 

And when he's in the game, most of them can't even make shots when he finds them on the perimeter.  

So what is Trae supposed to do? Just let the team die? He's doing what every superstar in the NBA has always done, carry the team offensively when they're struggling.

Now if he were jacking up a bunch of long 3s, and shooting every other possession, that's hero ball to me, because he's just shooting just to be shooting.

Yeah, I'm not getting the hero ball thing either. Not when every freakin game Trae dishes out dimes only to watch guys who are wide ass open by NBA standards brick jumper after jumper or only to see Len or Jones not go up strong and miss a bunny.  He's quite literally doing everything he can do to help the team win offensively. Heck, I'd even argue he needs to be a bit more aggressive demanding the ball in crunch time as I'm sick of seeing multiple possessions where he doesn't even touch the ball. Just because he's getting a break from bringing it up doesn't mean he can still be involved and eventually get it back. He's the best thing (and only thing really) the Hawks have going.  

[bleachkit]

5 hours ago, NBASupes said:

I just want all three: Cam/Hunter/Huerter to be ready v. Charlotte. Graham and those boys can play

We could of had Graham, we have that pick away.

[terrell]

6 hours ago, Plainview1981 said:

He lost the Dallas trade. We’ve been there and done that.

Huerter? Ok role player. The hype surrounding him has yet to ge justified.

Hunter is a decent player, but he doesn’t have the explosiveness to be much better than a 3rd option “glue” kind of player. He has done decent sometimes.

His FA moves are brutal. 

Jones looks ok, but I think part of that is due to the small expectations right now. His flaws would be more apprent if the Hawks were in competitive games.

Turner/Chandler/Carter/Crabbe are so bad. He does FA like Babcock used to draft.

 

 

Lol. How do you lose a trade, when you get the players you wanted? Trae is amazing. And we dont know how good Cam will be unless youre some kind of Genie...

Huerter was 2nd team all rookie while being the 19th pick.

Hunter was drafted to be a 3rd option "glue guy". So hes perfect according to you..

Jones is an upgrade to Spellman so it was a good trade.

He hasnt made any real FA moves yet besides Jabari and Len. And they both exceeded expectations. Those other players are just expiring contracts.

Anything else?

 

 

Edited December 5, 2019 by terrell

[terrell]

9 hours ago, bleachkit said:

Quite a few I'm sure. Jones wiffs on at least 2 lobs a game, and Len fumbles at least 2 passes a game. 

Dont forget about all of the missed jumpers...

[terrell]

31 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

We could of had Graham, we have that pick away.

And most wouldve called him a bust as a rookie playing in the GLeague. lol

[NBASupes]

2 hours ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

LOL @ hero ball. You watch the games just like we do. This team can't even run the offense when he's out of the game. 

And when he's in the game, most of them can't even make shots when he finds them on the perimeter.  

So what is Trae supposed to do? Just let the team die? He's doing what every superstar in the NBA has always done, carry the team offensively when they're struggling.

Now if he were jacking up a bunch of long 3s, and shooting every other possession, that's hero ball to me, because he's just shooting just to be shooting.

I am not disagreeing with that. I just want to see Trae be better at choosing when to shoot, run the offense and pick his spots when to score. I simply want more balance from his game 

[lethalweapon3]

PLEASE tell me some of y'all got some decent sleep last night!

~lw3

[JayBirdHawk]

8 hours ago, kg01 said:

 

 

F*ck that bullsh*t.  Mother f*ck that bullsh*t.

How many times they've had the PeliCant's, _arriors, Knicks, Bullets, Blllazers, and other crap arse teams on?  And, all of a sudden, they discover the flex option when it's time for us to be on?

R u kidding me?!

Congrats to MIA for having a nice season and all but y'all ain't no contenders or nothin'.  Have fun once your rookies hit the wall and Jimi starts gettin on everybody's nerves (again).  Why don't y'all figure out who gave Waiters them weed gummies?

Just wait til we get back to fill strength.  The hawks finna show y'all chumps.

In the immortal words of Andre 3000, "The South got sumthin' ta say!"

This sounds like a guy who hasn't gotten enough sleep. . Ramble on @kg01, ramble on.

How's the munchkin.

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

This sounds like a guy who hasn't gotten enough sleep. . Ramble on @kg01, ramble on.

How's the munchkin.

Haha, what is ... sleep?

Still though, I ain't wrong.

And 05 is doing great.

[lethalweapon3]

We wouldn't boo you, Brother T. Matta-fact, we've never been bigger fans of you!

~lw3