2021 into 2022 OFFSEASON News and Notes

[marco102]

1 minute ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

Daddy say's it's ok!  

what is/was his college recruiting looking like...not good enough?

Apparently, he's already 20 years old. 

Yes sir! 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

6 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Yes sir! 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

7 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Apparently, he's already 20 years old

whaaaaat? really - isn't he just finishing high school?

[kg01]

20 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

whaaaaat? really - isn't he just finishing high school?

Wonder if he's one that reclassified to make sure he's hitting his physical peak at the right time.  Yes, that's a thing.

[AHF]

2 hours ago, aali34 said:

I didn't like the government enforcing corporations to institute mandates if they weren't going to themselves, that seems like a breach. but I could be wrong. 

At the same time, this is a public health crisis and thousands are dying.

There are hundreds and probably thousands of mandates that corporations have proven they will not do on their own.  OSHA, EPA, Financial Regulation, etc. put these in place when the consequences of these decisions impact health and safety or cause externalities that the public will pay if employers cut corners to reduce costs and maximize profit as they are prone to do.

[kg01]

14 minutes ago, AHF said:

There are hundreds and probably thousands of mandates that corporations have proven they will not do on their own.  OSHA, EPA, Financial Regulation, etc. put these in place when the consequences of these decisions impact health and safety or cause externalities that the public will pay if employers cut corners to reduce costs and maximize profit as they are prone to do.

Yeah check out the meatpacking scandal for some insight into why government intervention is necessary to spur decent corporate behavior.

I don't think anybody likes gov to be too handsy but sometimes we make it necessary.

[aali34]

36 minutes ago, AHF said:

There are hundreds and probably thousands of mandates that corporations have proven they will not do on their own.  OSHA, EPA, Financial Regulation, etc. put these in place when the consequences of these decisions impact health and safety or cause externalities that the public will pay if employers cut corners to reduce costs and maximize profit as they are prone to do.

Good point, didn't think of it from that perspective. 

[Final_quest]

7 hours ago, marco102 said:

It is not a mandate that you get vaccinated. It's a mandate that employers offer a choice, either get tested every two days  OR require vaccination.  

There's still an option not to get vaccinated, but it seems in a pandemic where the government has ALREADY paid for all these vaccines, the mandate is more for public health than big pharma.  Also, the other treatments out there cost more than the vaccine. Why aren't they pushing that to help big pharma?  

The healthcare cost of super sick covid patients is much  more than the vaccine.  It seems like the vaccine saving the country billions of dollars in medical bills that medicaid and medicare would have to cover, since Covid affects older people more than younger people, would out weight big pharma profits. 

Edit: I also respect Kyrie's choice. However, choices have consequences.

 

I have a different view point on what liberty means and what the government's role should be, but this is a basketball forum.  I'll just leave it at that.  

[marco102]

1 minute ago, Final_quest said:

I have a different view point on what liberty means and what the government's role should be, but this is a basketball forum.  I'll just leave it at that.  

And that's fine too. If everyone had the same opinion, the world would be a terrible place.  As long as we can debate respectfully. 

I'm not for government overreach, but there are times you need the government to step in. 

[JTB]

11 hours ago, marco102 said:

Uh, no it shouldn't....

 

Herro lost his damn mind. That Disney trip went to his head.

[bleachkit]

5 hours ago, marco102 said:

And that's fine too. If everyone had the same opinion, the world would be a terrible place.  As long as we can debate respectfully. 

I'm not for government overreach, but there are times you need the government to step in. 

This is actually a board where differences of opinion can happen. I have been on other sports sites, moderators take sides, play favorites, ban people for petty and silly reasons. It's awful. 

[Spud2nique]

Back to the C’s 

Nets open to trading Kyrie Irving?

Rival teams believe the Nets would be open to a significant trade offer for Irving,but his openness to playing for other franchises is unclear. Irving will be fully eligible in all markets except New York City and San Francisco. Brooklyn is on a championship chase, wanting the commitment of every player on their roster, now dealing with the cloud of uncertainty regarding a member of its big three.

 

– via Shams Charania @ The Athletic

[Spud2nique]

Is there anyway that the Nets, Sixers and Celts play musical chairs with Kyrie, Ben and (name a player) to distract them for the entire season as the Hawks sneak into the NBA finals? 

[kg01]

20 hours ago, marco102 said:

Uh, no it shouldn't....

 

`Trae's response:

Crappy a**, sycophantic a** MIA media response:

[Gray Mule]

As funny - silly as this sounds, Tyler Herro has shown himself to be a pretty good player.  But he must put in more time as a very good player to be considered.  At least, he believes in himself.  This is a good start.

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

As funny - silly as this sounds, Tyler Herro has shown himself to be a pretty good player.  But he must put in more time as a very good player to be considered.  At least, he believes in himself.  This is a good start.

Agreed but also, is it me or was he a shooting guard? I thought he was listed as a 6’4” shooting guard coming out of Kentucky, I even drafted him in our Squawk draft last night but now I see he’s only listed as a PG. He should at least be an eligible SG as well.

To me he’s a SG/PG. 

Then again Luka is a SF if we are doing it by position. Luka brings the ball up the court though, I don’t think Herro does that for the Heat. It’s Lowry.

So let me get this straight, the Heat have 2 point guards in their starting lineup?

 

PG Lowry

PG Herro

[SalvorMallow]

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[kg01]

15 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

As funny - silly as this sounds, Tyler Herro has shown himself to be a pretty good player.  But he must put in more time as a very good player to be considered.  At least, he believes in himself.  This is a good start.

You're not wrong, in general.  However, I'm versed in the mystic arts of reading between the lines.  What ol' Tyler is actually saying here is as follows: "Ayo Pat Riley, my free agency's comin' up and I wanna Trae/Luka-sized deal, no cap."

Considering he's not even an assured starter, this "confidence" he's showing is actually a looming problem for them when he ends up with a Tre Mann-sized deal instead.  Shiii, he might not even end the season with the Heat.  Not even Lebron was able to throw his weight around with their leadership.

[AHF]

I like Herro but that is a crazy statement to make to put himself in the same conversation of those guys.  He isn't in the conversation with Trae.  He is in the conversation with Huerter.

[macdaddy]

Just now, AHF said:

I like Herro but that is a crazy statement to make to put himself in the same conversation of those guys.  He isn't in the conversation with Trae.  He is in the conversation with Huerter.

Isn't this the Ja strategy though?   It worked for him.  Morant been telling people for 2 years that he's as good or better than Trae and now people think they are equal somehow when it's  not really even close.