The Official NBASupes, Sothron, and theCampster Insider Thread - NBA 2022-23 Season

[Spud2nique]

38 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Crowder gonna be out Haslem ... would yall trade Collins for Haslem?

Egggssssacctlyyyyyy ..... 

no but peep this… my friend is a huge rockets fan since the early 90’s… ok mid, he actually was only there for one championship in 95 following Clyde he was formerly a Blazer fan but I digress..

Our text… 

[Spud2nique]

@kg01 I had to hit him with that beer gif. Sengun is good but wow, more value than Jalen Green. @NBASupes your thoughts on this since you live in H town. 
 

Sengun a stud but he saying he won’t even answer my calls for JC in a Sengun trade. I mean we have OO but just the point of the debate. I dunno.

[Spud2nique]

5 minutes ago, kg01 said:

click-worthy

I’m so sick of clicks…  click this click that. I like the old days where it was touch this and touch that.

#outbeforethelock  @kg01 seriously feel my kimono bro. I’m basically walkin around in me birthday suite. Sorry for the image carry on..

[Spud2nique]

@Sothron my Rocket friend is getting to me bro. He doesn’t value JC it seems. 
 

“There’s a reason he’s being shopped.”

 

I ain’t down with that comment from my friend…

I’m not sure I’m gonna let him slide with that comment.. it didn’t sit well with me at all.

 

OH OH I GOT IT! The reason he’s shopped is because he doesn’t fit our system?  
 

I dunno anymore all I know is that JC balls out when he wants to ball out and he’s coming on as of late. 
 

STAND PAT!

[ShooterSays]

2 hours ago, georgia said:

Athletic is reporting Houston interest in collins with a 3 way deal with Phoenix.     Hawks get crowder- saric- shamet and picks

I'm going to be physically ill if this is the trade package we get for JC.

[AHF]

1 hour ago, macdaddy said:

I like Crowder as a short term backup to JC, not a replacement.  

Definitely big risk with Crowder as an UFA this summer.  How much is he going to want?  Obviously, whatever he discussed with Phoenix he views as so insultingly low that he won't even play for them this season.  

I don't think you can count on him past this season because he can Danny Manning  you and just walk.  Note that this could be addressed with an agreement on an extension as a precondition to trading for him which could give you a longer runway to JJ being ready to start or whatever alternative you are looking at post-Crowder.  Crowder will be 33 this summer so you definitely need to be thinking about that.

[theheroatl]

I’m thinking there will be a 3 team trade with Houston and Phoenix involving JC, Crowder, Saric, Bogi, and Gordon.

[NekiEcko]

I think Capella and Ayton is going to be part of that package but there is going to be a snag.

[kg01]

14 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:

I think Capella and Ayton is going to be part of that package but there is going to be a snag.

Yeah, we're gonna insist they take traes contract. 

[Gray Mule]

33 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Yeah, we're gonna insist they take traes contract. 

Not Trae - - - Just his contract - - - We keep Trae!

[Spud2nique]

1 minute ago, Gray Mule said:

Not Trae - - - Just his contract - - - We keep Trae!

And get considerations for Hali and Mark Williams too.  

1 hour ago, theheroatl said:

I’m thinking

I don’t think you are.

[Sothron]

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

@Sothron my Rocket friend is getting to me bro. He doesn’t value JC it seems. 
 

“There’s a reason he’s being shopped.”

 

I ain’t down with that comment from my friend…

I’m not sure I’m gonna let him slide with that comment.. it didn’t sit well with me at all.

 

OH OH I GOT IT! The reason he’s shopped is because he doesn’t fit our system?  
 

I dunno anymore all I know is that JC balls out when he wants to ball out and he’s coming on as of late. 
 

STAND PAT!

Everyone knows I love JC. He's a fringe AS level player. His contract is fair which is why some fans think he's overpaid. When the new CBA comes out that deal is going to look even better.

Despite what your friend was saying we aren't just giving him away. That other Athletic trade speculation is exactly that: the Houston beat writer just came up with a deal that made sense to him. 

 

[GameTime]

59 minutes ago, Sothron said:

Everyone knows I love JC. He's a fringe AS level player. His contract is fair which is why some fans think he's overpaid. When the new CBA comes out that deal is going to look even better.

Despite what your friend was saying we aren't just giving him away. That other Athletic trade speculation is exactly that: the Houston beat writer just came up with a deal that made sense to him. 

 

[Diesel]

3 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

@kg01 I had to hit him with that beer gif. Sengun is good but wow, more value than Jalen Green. @NBASupes your thoughts on this since you live in H town. 
 

Sengun a stud but he saying he won’t even answer my calls for JC in a Sengun trade. I mean we have OO but just the point of the debate. I dunno.

The problem is that Us always putting JC on the Blocks is artificially lowering his value.   People start to wonder what's wrong with him.

[NBASupes]

3 hours ago, Spud2nique said:

@kg01 I had to hit him with that beer gif. Sengun is good but wow, more value than Jalen Green. @NBASupes your thoughts on this since you live in H town. 
 

Sengun a stud but he saying he won’t even answer my calls for JC in a Sengun trade. I mean we have OO but just the point of the debate. I dunno.

Sengun is the only good player on the squad. The rest just put up stats and have extreme talent, well at least Green does.

[JeffS17]

JC is on a fair contract.  At this point, with him actively wanting out, I just hope we get at least a first and a young talent to develop.  There's no realistic way we get better trading him because the whole point of trading him is to evade the tax next season.

[NekiEcko]

So right now, most of the moves we can make is during the offseason but I think we should keep JC unless there is a offer that is going to help us out

[Sothron]

Got a small update on the PHX/Atl trade rumors: Phx is hesitant about Bogi's knee and the Hawks are hesitant about Crowder coming in at this point with zero games played is a question of game shape and how many games it would take to get him going.

[kg01]

35 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

JC is on a fair contract.  At this point, with him actively wanting out, I just hope we get at least a first and a young talent to develop.  There's no realistic way we get better trading him because the whole point of trading him is to evade the tax next season.

This true?

[Sothron]

Non trade update from sources about the Hawks:

Nate is frustrated that the fans/local media are not giving him flowers about the Hawks improved defense this year and his coaching job overall. He feels he has done a really good job keeping this team in the playoff hunt with all the turmoil in the front office, the refusal to pay the LT and being forced to play guys he doesn't want to play as regular rotation players. Hint: he's talking about our young guys not named OO and A. Holiday. 

He thinks he has grown AJ, OO and even Jalen and no one gives him credit for it. He also has added more wrinkles in the offense to try and diversify the offense and fans aren't giving him the credit for it. He did not want to lose Gallo and Kevin and he's making hash out of the scraps the FO gave him because Ressler won't pay the LT.

Nate feels he has done a really good job this year and instead of getting flowers he's getting non stop negativity and the fans wanting him gone. He knows the FO wants to move on from in the off season. Nate feels he even has gotten through to Trae about Trae playing defense and he is actually playing defense for the last month and a half.

Our three man think tank of Nick Ressler, Landry Fields and Korver are split amongst who they want as the next HC. D'antoni, Snyder, Atkinson and Udoka are the leading candidates but they also are giving serious thought about hiring a younger assistant to try and fit better with our team. The FO definitely feels that Nate is far too out of touch with the roster and his coaching style is too old school. The FO wants us to run more and get out in transition more and lead to more three point shots.

DJM and Trae are determined to make things work out in Atlanta. DJM wants to stay in Atlanta long term but he wants to see what the team does in the offseason. Trae is all in on Atlanta. All this talk about Trae going to LA or wherever is simply absurd. FO is determined to make the best team possible AROUND Trae.