2020-21 The Current Ask Supes

[terrell]

3 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Another update: 

Rockets are interested in trade ups and they are looking to add pieces to help them win. They want to rebuild and win games while playing attractive Basketball. 

They already reached out to the Pacers and Pistons. They also reached out to GS and Atlanta 

What/Who are they wanting from us?

[NekiEcko]

7 minutes ago, terrell said:

What/Who are they wanting from us?

Yeah, I dont see anybody from Houston is going to help the Hawks except for Wood and they are not that stupid.

[Final_quest]

If we trade Huerter for #10 it means we know we can’t spend the money to keep Bogi, Hunter, Reddish, and Huerter.  
It would sting but I would understand.  

[NekiEcko]

1 hour ago, Final_quest said:

If we trade Huerter for #10 it means we know we can’t spend the money to keep Bogi, Hunter, Reddish, and Huerter.  
It would sting but I would understand.  

Yeah, that shows that this team does a unbelievable job of finding talent.

[sturt]

To no one in particular...

It would be valuable for Hawks fans to spend a half hour plugging into an Excel spreadsheet a projected salary chart for 21-22 and for 22-23... that would be enough to provide a truer, more precise picture of how this thing would appear to unfold.

This will help. I've taken the time to look up what each of our current players numbers are for those seasons. Where there are players I've envisioned being added, just substitute your own if you don't like mine.

But do that, and this will all be a whole lot less frustrating because you will have examined it for yourself with actual numbers rather than conjecture based on broad statements.

 

 

 

[sturt]

9 hours ago, NBASupes said:

In the West.

No KCP? Hmmm. Really? After all that chatter at the deadline that they wanted to get his salary off the books sooner or later?

[NBASupes]

4 hours ago, terrell said:

What/Who are they wanting from us?

idk. 

[JayBirdHawk]

15 hours ago, LucastheThird said:

There are a couple of names on this listy that I would consider a trade for, and some that I would really jump on for the right pieces.

 

K Love, Simmons, Bagley, JJJ, and Porzingis would all benefit from playing with Trae and could add value either equal to JC or better. If JC wants to get the max and leave in a SnT, then we could have some options.

K Love and Porzingas? - why would you want two guys with injury issues and making that much money?

Bagley? Another injury waiting to happen. Kings would have to pay us to take him. Then next season we're back in the same boat with his RFAcy.

Simmons - that's making Philly tougher if we send them JC. What becomes of Clint? Imagine what our Freethrow shooting would look like? 'Shudders'

[LucastheThird]

10 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

K Love and Porzingas? - why would you want two guys with injury issues and making that much money?

Bagley? Another injury waiting to happen. Kings would have to pay us to take him. Then next season we're back in the same boat with his RFAcy.

Simmons - that's making Philly tougher if we send them JC. What becomes of Clint? Imagine what our Freethrow shooting would look like? 'Shudders'

I just want to state, these are only options for IF JC wants to SnT. 

The only ones I really want are Porzingis and Simmons. 

P Goody would hopefully flourish with an actual passer in Trae and not pick up another significant injury.

Simmons does make Capela hard for us to play and is probably the hardest for us to get. I would take him in a heartbeat though. Try to stagger his and Capela's minutes as much as you can, but another elite ball handler to take that pressure off of Trae a bit is enticing to think about. 

K Love is really just a healthy VC that can actually play PF and produce. Another vet who has won a ring to help our young men focus. That's the idea anyway.

Bagley is a project that we could probably take on without losing JC. Don't really know what role he would take in and his head needs to be on right. But he has undeniable talent, he just needs another situation to put it all together IMO.

Edited July 11, 2021 by LucastheThird

[JayBirdHawk]

16 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Lon. Ball - Same as JC, SnT options. Like JC, his SnT market is booming compared to his FA market which is stale. When you are demanding the salary they want, teams are reluctant.  

There are a limited number of teams with real capspace to meet their demand and not all are interested: Spurs, Mavericks, Knicks, Thunder and Heat so of course their market is lower. Plus when you add in the wait time after signing a RFA teams are reluctant to tie up their FA dollars early in FAcy. Same thing, different year.

[JayBirdHawk]

1 hour ago, LucastheThird said:

K Love is really just a healthy VC that can actually play PF and produce. Another vet who has won a ring to help our young men focus. That's the idea anyway.

No, he really isn't. How'd he help his young Cavs team. He's a bad contract. Cavs need to include assest to move him. And again their is no financial flexibility in taking on his contract.

And my biggest question is - why would JC want to go to Cleveland though? 

1 hour ago, LucastheThird said:

P Goody would hopefully flourish with an actual passer in Trae and not pick up another significant injury.

I don't trust that he won't and his salary $31, $33, $36 will be higher than JC so it still doesn't offer us the financial flexibility the premise behind a JC SnT should offer. Why do a SnT to take on a higher salary unless it's for a Superstar player.

1 hour ago, LucastheThird said:

Simmons does make Capela hard for us to play and is probably the hardest for us to get. I would take him in a heartbeat though. Try to stagger his and Capela's minutes as much as you can, but another elite ball handler to take that pressure off of Trae a bit is enticing to think about. 

As 'enticing' as Ben Simmons skillset is as a ball handler and all the other things he excels at etc...the one skill he doesn't excel at and the one I consider most important in a player in todays NBA is SHOOTING.   He can't shoot and more importantly he WON'T shoot. He's scared to shoot.

And as much as you can try and stagger a Simmons/Capela lineup, we'll always be at an offensive disadvantage with two guys that clog the paint, can't score and TURRIBLE freethrow shooters making a boatload of money. We'd have no offensive diversity.

 

 

[Spud2nique]

4 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Spurs

This one is a dark horse team that scares me. Pop and Collins with the military background in common. If JC were to leave, I bet he would go Spurs before any of the rest of these teams.

[JayBirdHawk]

23 hours ago, NBASupes said:

C. Sexton - Rookie Contract Questions

K. Love - Wants Out, possible buyout 

 

 

 

23 hours ago, NBASupes said:

The teams I am hearing are interested is Dallas, Memphis, Miami, Minny, Portland, SAC, Indy, and Houston.

Rumor is Indy is looking to trade pick #13 and had discussions with Rockets. Indy wants a rookie able to contribute immediately or wants to trade pick

[Spud2nique]

18 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

 

 

 

Rumor is Indy is looking to trade pick #13 and had discussions with Rockets. Indy wants a rookie able to contribute immediately or wants to trade pick

Tell @kg01 he will get excited  

[kg01]

18 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Tell @kg01 he will get excited  

The jokes just write themselves from that headline.  I dont want to sully my murky name further by pointing them out.

Now I must go to RgM to search out the Stillwater guy who kept telling everyone how Sexton is better than Trae.  I just wanna make sure he's doing ok. 

[gHost83]

Hear me out...

I would pursue Jerami Grant in a Collins sign and trade. Would also be willing to send our first. 

Team would be dynamic defensively. Potentially running a squad of Cam, Hunter and Grant would be a nightmare for wings. 

Grant can still rim run if needed. Can provide iso and volume shooting, and be able to get slower guys like a Bobby Portis in foul trouble very quickly.

Sure we would lose the rebounding Collins brings but gain another defensive presence and ability to switch. Schlenk loves dudes who go off on us when we play them (see Bogi for example).  I think it's a real possibility we push for it. Would Detroit go for it?

[marco102]

2 hours ago, kg01 said:

The jokes just write themselves from that headline.  I dont want to sully my murky name further by pointing them out.

Now I must go to RgM to search out the Stillwater guy who kept telling everyone how Sexton is better than Trae.  I just wanna make sure he's doing ok. 

He's been really quiet lately.  Is he banned? 

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, gHost83 said:

Hear me out...

I would pursue Jerami Grant in a Collins sign and trade. Would also be willing to send our first. 

Team would be dynamic defensively. Potentially running a squad of Cam, Hunter and Grant would be a nightmare for wings. 

Grant can still rim run if needed. Can provide iso and volume shooting, and be able to get slower guys like a Bobby Portis in foul trouble very quickly.

Sure we would lose the rebounding Collins brings but gain another defensive presence and ability to switch. Schlenk loves dudes who go off on us when we play them (see Bogi for example).  I think it's a real possibility we push for it. Would Detroit go for it?

I tell ya I like Grant a lot. Two guys that play with heart are Collins and Grant. Ya I’d listen. What’s the deal though?

[kg01]

50 minutes ago, marco102 said:

He's been really quiet lately.  Is he banned? 

So you're saying he's been .... quiet AF?

Haha, yeah been real quiet since oh about right 'round that floater dropped vs NYK.

[bleachkit]

Sexton wants a max deal, that's why Cleveland is smart to trade him. You can't just hand out max deals to everyone.