Official Game Thread: Hawks at Timberwolves

[djjob23]

FYI, here are the refs that were assigned to the Instant Replay Center tonight. I included their team records since Trae's been in the league (% rank vs 30 teams | % rank vs other refs for same team) when reffing for either team: 

Instant Replay Center Refs tonight:
Matt Boland: MIN 13-14 (17|33), ATL 12-7 (4|10)
John Goble: MIN 9-9 (15|27), ATL 5-17 (30|80)
Matt Myers: MIN 6-9 (23|64), ATL 4-15 (27|92)
Justin Van Duyne: MIN 17-6 (2|4), ATL 5-11 (28|72)
John Conley: MIN 3-6 (22|79), ATL 2-4 (23|65)

Looks like we had a 1 in 5 shot the IRC would overturn the call. Wonder which ref replayed it? 

[Diesel]

Somebody slip JC some of what Lebron is using and a League Testing Schedule. 

[terrell]

7 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I've been saying this. Quin ain't trying to win. Nate was trying harder and he wasn't trying either unless it was spam. 

I guess he knows like MOST of the rest of us, that this team as constructed aint it..

Its just Evaluation time for him...

 

 

[JayBirdHawk]

 

 

[kg01]

6 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

This ref crew man, smh.

 

 

 

 

Fair or foul, the guy clearly got demoted or admonished due to the FVV situation.  If they found he was abusing his power to enact some personal vendetta against a player, WHY IS HE THE LEAD OFFICIAL OF ANY GAME?  Makes no sense.  None.

And the result you see tonight illustrates why.  He, and by extension 'they', were clearly out of sorts all night.

Naz Reid kilt whoever was guarding him with his effort, aggression, and the fact that he was allowed to shuffle his feet every time he touched the ball (before dribbling).

They missed a couple travels on Bey.  And Trae got a couple questionable foil calls and they committed the ultimate cardinal sin and awarded him continuation not once but twice.  And once on a 3, no less!  

And can we talk about NAW hopping up and down, clapping at the refs ... on multiple occasions... and getting no T?

Should we even bother to talk about the Towns hook and takedown on Collins?  Yes Collins fouled him, but he didn't throw himself off balance.  The hook ... which is such an elementary call it's mind-boggling they tried to sell us that it didn't happen ... was the first "illegal contact".

And how TF did MIN "win" their challenge?  Not only did they win it, they topped it off by granting continuation!  It was a comedy of errors.

Ok @bleachkit, where do I stand on my ref rant?  Yes I'm doing it after a loss, but they were bad all the way around and I was fair in acknowledging it.  What say you? 

[sturt]

 

 

[terrell]

Last season we were 36-37.

We then went on a 5 game winning streak..

Anyone on here think we can win 5 in a row at this point in this season?

We have Pacers, Grizzlies ( on a b2b), Cavs, @Nets, Mavs.

Yeah, me neither.

Surprise me, Hawks.

[terrell]

Imagine the National outrage if Trae did this..........

 

[JayBirdHawk]

9 minutes ago, terrell said:

Imagine the National outrage if Trae did this..........

 

Retroactive technical and fine incoming.

[Sothron]

That was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen. Stop me if you heard this before: the ref crews are deliberately going out of their way since the ECF run to handicap the Hawks. It is true. The game tape bears it out. Time and again for two straight seasons now we just get absolutely hosed by the refs.

I'll ignore all of the insanely bad calls (Naz Reid btw travelled at least six times and not once called) and focus on the deciding two. As if, btw, an entire GAME OF BAD CALLS is somehow forgotten when its just two horrible calls at the end of the game.

KAT clearly hooked and committed an offensive foul on JC. JC only "fouled" him by falling down AFTER he got hooked. How that challenge didn't go through is beyond words.

And then the final play where these cheating refs ADMITTED Bey was fouled as time ran out trying to put the ball back in. Go watch the replay. Watch him shoot, watch the foul but look at how close he still got to making it. If he wasn't fouled that shot goes in.

The NBA years ago made the Hawks/Heat replay the last five plus minutes of a game the Hawks WON because Shaq was fouled out when he only had five fouls. The NBA said that one bad call meant the ENTIRE END OF THE GAME had to be replayed. And guess what? The Heat won.  

The refs admit they missed that foul at the end of the game. How the hell are we not being told by the NBA to stay in Minnesota, everyone come back and Bey gets two free throws with whatever tenth of a second is left on the clock? Unreal. Blatant and obvious favoritism.

[Spud2nique]

7 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Then they also had DeAngelo Russell.

That’ll kill anything good a team’s got goin  givem a ceiling real quick.

[Spud2nique]

Saturday is a chance to crawl back to the 20th time of climbing back to .500 .. ugh

 

OO played really well and same with Saddiq. We should have had this….

Continue to build good habits. 
 

GO HAWKS!!!!

[BrazilianHawk]

8 hours ago, FL_BRYANT said:

Why is it the Hawks forget about the forwards in the second half.  We start off getting the ball to Dre and Collins then they don't get any shots in the second half. Hawks need to keep moving the ball all game.  I expect this will get better as Q gets a chance to work with them. Old habits are hard to break. 

That's because they're not our stars, you know. 

 

Our star has to make it himself so he can be lauded for his efforts in tight games. 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

32 minutes ago, BrazilianHawk said:

That's because they're not our stars, you know. 

 

Our star has to make it himself so he can be lauded for his efforts in tight games. 

 

2nd half shooting

 

Collins:  1 - 1 FG . . . . 0 FTA . . . 0 REBS . . . . . 0 FGA in the 4th quarter

Hunter:  2 - 6 FG . . . 0 FTA . . . 1 REB . . . . . . 0 - 3 FG in the 4th quarter

Trae:  2 - 6 FG . . 8 - 10 FTs . . . 1 REB . . . . . . 1 - 2 FG in the 4th quarter

 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

As soon as Bey and Okongwu went out, everything went to hell.  Both probably deserved to play a longer stretch, if not finish out the game.  They were the reason why we got the lead in the first place.  Bringing back the starters at the set point in the 4th quarter ( 7 min mark ), was typical Nate style of coaching, in order to get his "guys" back in.

Meanwhile, Minnesota kept KAT out of the game in the 4th, when Naz Reid started to cook us.  Okongqu had held KAT to 1 - 5 FG in the 2nd half, and never got a chance to finish out the game to guard KAT on the last possession.

As bad as the refs and our players were, Quin was just as bad last night.  And if I'm Bey, I'm highly pissed.  He scored all 16 of his points in a 10 minute stretch in the 4th.

Okongwu and Bey are young guys.  If need be, they can play longer than a 10 minute stretch.

 

And how did we figure out to go with a 10 mam lineup in these last 2 games?  No Murray, so you extend Bogi's minutes, and bring on 2 guys in the lineup to balance out the rotation?

Is the 9-man lineup specifically in place to get Bogi 25+ minutes on the floor?  And if so, isn't there still opportunity to play a 10th man spot minutes?

 

 

Quin coaching job last night:  D+

[kg01]

7 hours ago, terrell said:

Imagine the National outrage if Trae did this..........

 

Background, for anyone interested, is the mavs misunderstood a ref awarding the ball to GS and ended up lining up on the wrong side of the court.  Led to an uncontested dunk in the 3rd quarter.  Yes 2 pts in the 3rd quarter, in DAL's eyes, decided the game.  Refs made the right call, PA guy announced it wrong ... but it's the refs fault?  Weird.

But somebody need to ask Luk who paid the refs for this no-call ...

 

 

[deester11]

I'm not a.."the refs screwed us" type of guy, but that game was so hard to watch.  I've seen AAU games officiated this way and it absolutely causes the outcome to be in doubt.  The Hawk's do a good job of screwing themselves over without the refs help.  That JC call...Smh.  Can anyone tell me WTH the relay booth actually does?

[georgia]

We got screwed last night.   However, our starters esp Trae when they subbed in played at a slower speed and caused the game to get close.    Traes unforced turnovers were ridiculous 

[TheNorthCydeRises]

And THAT'S what Cuban and the Mavs are crying about?

The officiating in our game was FAR WORSE than in their game.  And people on Twitter are even complaining about Trae getting a ton of calls.  He got one phantom call ( on the 3 point attempt in the 4th ).

People hate Trae and his complaining about fouls. But Luka is 2x worse.  Draymond plays perfect defense on Luka near the rim, he misses the shot, and then he throws up the "paid off" sign to the refs . . . and didn't get a T?

And the refs even admitted in their 2 min report, that they missed the foul call on Bey's final shot attempt after rebounding the Hunter meteorite he shot off the backboard.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

And here's a thought about Bogi and his "back to backs".  When you know one is coming in the schedule, how about reducing his minutes in the 1st game, in order to get maximum effectiveness in the 2nd game.

Put him on a 20 minute cap in Game 1, unless you really need him, then play it by ear in the 2nd game.

If we want him as fresh as possible, we have to start limiting his minutes in that 1st back to back game.