My guy has talked around NBA circles of late

[JeffS17]

16 minutes ago, thecampster said:

More than once!

Man I hate talking about players like that. They are human beings....but it is what it is.

Same, cannot stand that type of language for employees/workers in general, especially by the employer.  I work in corporate finance and have had the unfortunate experience of planning layoffs, and the way execs talk about people is very telling of the culture of a company.  Just left a company in April thats CEO used the metaphor "this plane is flying low and we need to jettison this dead weight" referring to a ppt of some of our "underperforming" workers, which I can promise you was not an objective measurement of those peoples value.

EDIT: Part of my comment got cutoff -- was saying I highly doubt Supes means it that way

[Diesel]

35 minutes ago, terrell said:

Id rather hold out for KAT.  Trae/Kat and 3 elite wing defenders.....

[thecampster]

6 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Same, cannot stand that type of language for employees/workers in general, especially by the employer.  I work in corporate finance and have had the unfortunate experience of planning layoffs, and the way execs talk about people is very telling of the culture of a company.  Just left a company in April thats CEO used the metaphor "this plane is flying low and we need to jettison this dead weight" referring to a ppt of some of our "underperforming" workers, which I can promise you was not an objective measurement of those peoples value.

Doubt 

Edited January 11, 2022 by thecampster

[Spud2nique]

2 hours ago, thecampster said:

League word is a pairing of Simmons, Young scares the league to death. Teams already spending wee hours looking at ways to contain Trae. A legit 2nd ball handler on the floor with him or with him off the floor means no rest for the wicked.

Ya I can see that.

[JTB]

If the hawks land Sabonis in a trade that Collins is not apart of going back to IND……then what exactly is the plan here????

Schlenk would have Collins, Sabonis, Capela on the roster.

Sabonis doesn’t fix the defensive problems but he can go get buckets and is a better scorer (way better) than JC and Capela….but I just don’t understand the full framework of such a deal UNLESS…there’s another major deal that’s shipping out JC perhaps to Philly for Simmons.

Then the hawks front court looks like Simmons, Sabonis, Capela…..but then I’m thinking well that wouldn’t make sense since no one in that front court can shoot. 
 

however Capela could be traded during the draft for a starting piece to go with Simmons and Sabonis (just me predicting on what makes sense)……

 

I’m all kinds of confused ….I understand wanting to get Sabonis for offensive help especially when Trae is doubled but Sabonis does most his work down low in the paint area as a scorer so Simmons don’t make a ton of sense offensively with Sabonis in my opinion as that recreates the Philly problem. Sabonis can hit a 3…as he’s capable but that’s not his game. Capela would get in his way and so would Simmons IF there were plans to add Simmons.

 

JC and Sabonis offensively will take a major leap over JC and Capela but let’s not kid ourselves…Sabonis is not Capela or anything close defensively. I want Sabonis scoring but man he’d really have to bring the offense with Trae if he were here. He rebounds well but lacks defense in my opinion.

[kg01]

2 hours ago, thecampster said:

League word is a pairing of Simmons, Young scares the league to death. Teams already spending wee hours looking at ways to contain Trae. A legit 2nd ball handler on the floor with him or with him off the floor means no rest for the wicked. A small ball lineup with Capela and Hunter at the 5/4, Trae, Huerter(or Reddish), Simmons at the 1/2/3 means 3 legit wing defenders on the floor at once and Simmons defense influence on a team cannot be understated.

Smells like what I've been tellin' ya'll since the beginning of the season.

Did I just out myself as campst's source?

[JayBirdHawk]

3 minutes ago, JTB said:

If the hawks land Sabonis in a trade that Collins is not apart of going back to IND……then what exactly is the plan here????

Schlenk would have Collins, Sabonis, Capela on the roster.

Sabonis doesn’t fix the defensive problems but he can go get buckets and is a better scorer (way better) than JC and Capela….but I just don’t understand the full framework of such a deal UNLESS…there’s another major deal that’s shipping out JC perhaps to Philly for Simmons.

Then the hawks front court looks like Simmons, Sabonis, Capela…..but then I’m thinking well that wouldn’t make sense since no one in that front court can shoot. 
 

however Capela could be traded during the draft for a starting piece to go with Simmons and Sabonis (just me predicting on what makes sense)……

 

I’m all kinds of confused ….I understand wanting to get Sabonis for offensive help especially when Trae is doubled but Sabonis does most his work down low in the paint area as a scorer so Simmons don’t make a ton of sense offensively with Sabonis in my opinion as that recreates the Philly problem. Sabonis can hit a 3…as he’s capable but that’s not his game. Capela would get in his way and so would Simmons IF there were plans to add Simmons.

 

JC and Sabonis offensively will take a major leap over JC and Capela but let’s not kid ourselves…Sabonis is not Capela or anything close defensively. I want Sabonis scoring but man he’d really have to bring the offense with Trae if he were here. He rebounds well but lacks defense in my opinion.

This sounds more like offseason trades when Capela is eligible to be traded and I don't think Supes is saying we'd trade for both Simmons AND Sabonis.

To me these big trade typical occur in the offseason and around draft time where teams know exactly where draft compensation falls. Mid season trades are typically smaller.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Cleveland: I am told Collin Sexton is still available for trade for an major piece.

-kg

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

Indiana is blowing the bitch up

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

I'd rather Sabonis

Than anyone on the block in the league.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

I actually rather Cam value wise over Kev long term but not everyone sees it that way or even close. 

I do and have since day 1, but Cam needs to make his move, he has 1 month.

[Spud2nique]

1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:

McCullum

Mind putting a lil respect on my boy with a name spell check…  anyhoo…. 

[kg01]

7 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

-kg

Nah, you were just lookin' in the mirror from all the McCollum talk.

[Spud2nique]

52 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Hunter is like the hot girl at the party with tons of drama and a crazy ex boyfriend. Man she's beautiful and you'd like to take a run at that but you have to ask yourself if its worth the trip to the emergency room.

Man, you went to a rough high school. We actually had a girl named Tiffany and I bagged her. 

I kid of course, I would giggle like a little girl in front of her and freeze with words, palms got sweaty , high school anxiety… good times! 

[Spud2nique]

52 minutes ago, kg01 said:

.... strangely specific.  Almost like campst's been there before.

But, let's be honest, it's always worth the trip to the emergency room.....

Did you just pic Hunter in a lovely bride dress ? Me neither… what about Campster serenading D Hunt, grassy patch in front of Hunt’s house, camp ️ showin up with his lil oooooolee guitar .. no? Ya me neither. 

[JayBirdHawk]

10 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Than anyone on the block in the league.

Or Turner.

[Spud2nique]

6 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Nah, you were just lookin' in the mirror from all the McCollum talk.

BIIITTTC.. I mean uhhh, perhaps you are right. Namaste  

[Wurider05]

Quote

The Philadelphia 76ers have begun to attach Tobias Harris to their trade discussions of Ben Simmons, according to Brian Windhorst and Marc J. Spears of ESPN.

Harris signed a five-year, $180 million deal with the 76ers during the 2019 offseason.

"I'm hearing they want to include Tobias Harris," said Spears of Philadelphia's trade talks with the Atlanta Hawks. 

"Me too," replied Windhorst. 

"That is the word out there because they can't necessarily get an All-Star they want in return right now, as the Sixers have continued their talks, they've talked to teams about trading Tobias and Ben."

Spears also reported that the Hawks had interest in a trade for Simmons until the 76ers broached the possibility of including Harris. 

Windhorst reported that some executives have speculated that offloading the money of Simmons and Harris could pave the way for the 76ers to pursue James Harden in free agency.https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265407/76ers-Trying-To-Include-Tobias-Harris-In-Trade-Of-Ben-Simmons

Hell no we do this right? Harris is overpaid like a mf. 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Wurider05

[JayBirdHawk]

15 minutes ago, Wurider05 said:

Hell no we do this right? 

Hellz Naaawww!!! 

Hawks aren't taking on Harris.

[AHF]

Thanks for the updates, @NBASupes and @thecampster!

[Spud2nique]

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Or Turner.

Oh wow would you want Turner as much as Sabonis? My rankings would go..

Sabonis

Ben (Jam is going it, @kg01 too.. bending my mind like a pretzel )

Jaylen