My guy has talked around NBA circles of late

[RedDawg#8]

15 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I'm not sure McC is a better player than Heurter overall.  When you factor in salaries, it makes that deal taste like a day-old grilled cheese sandwich.

I think he is easily. But I do not like the fit next to Trae. Portland can't do anything in the playoffs because of their tiny backcourt. Trae is even smaller and a worse defender than Dame. We would be locked in to a very undersized backcourt that likely would suffer the same glass ceiling as Portland.

Size and defense have to be considered in any of these trades. Losing 6'7 for 6'3 is no bueno. 

I do like the Simmons trade though. He boosts our 2 biggest weaknesses, Defense and playmaking outside of Trae.

[thecampster]

Weird as this sounds, Houston makes out best in this deal.

[kg01]

4 minutes ago, RedDawg#8 said:

I think he is easily. But I do not like the fit next to Trae. Portland can't do anything in the playoffs because of their tiny backcourt. Trae is even smaller and a worse defender than Dame. We would be locked in to a very undersized backcourt that likely would suffer the same glass ceiling as Portland.

Size and defense have to be considered in any of these trades. Losing 6'7 for 6'3 is no bueno. 

I do like the Simmons trade though. He boosts our 2 biggest weaknesses, Defense and playmaking outside of Trae.

In acknowledging the issues with fit, you're actually agreeing with me on Heurter v McC, ya know. 

Glad you're on board with the Simmons trade.  I've been advocating it since the offseason with minimal takers.  I'm slowly wearing the board down.

[bleachkit]

4 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Weird as this sounds, Houston makes out best in this deal.

Why would Philly make that deal? Simmons and Harris for Wall and Bogi? Um, no. 

[kg01]

Just now, bleachkit said:

Why would Philly make that deal? Simmons and Harris for Wall and Bogi? Um, no. 

I see where the grumpy cat's going with this.   Getting off the Harris contract is appealing to them, but PHI shouldn't be in 'save money' mode.  They're a supposed contender.

Maybe this deal just sets the stage for more transactions for them?

[thecampster]

1 minute ago, bleachkit said:

Why would Philly make that deal? Simmons and Harris for Wall and Bogi? Um, no. 

Because Simmons is never suiting up for Philly again and Harris is very overpaid....Like $15 mil/year overpaid. They can't get better without moving on.

[Spud2nique]

33 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Crap, that should say 'over' Turner....so to clarify...if the choice is Sabonis or Turner, give me Sabonis. 

I was about to dig deep into Turner tapes and see what I had missed. Your opinion is highly valued and I thought I hadn’t done my due diligence on Myles. 

[Spud2nique]

@Wretch don’t ever say I didn’t do anything for you. You’re welcome.

Atlanta a potential destination for Jerami Grant?

Meanwhile, some competing executives have Atlanta as a credible destination for Detroit Pistons forward Jerami Grant. The Pistons are thought to covet a young center, making Okongwu a potentially attractive option in a trade along with Reddish.

 

– via Eric Pincus @ Bleacher Report

 Top Rumors, Trade, Jerami Grant, Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons

 

[thecampster]

20 minutes ago, marco102 said:

I'd do this trade every day and twice on Sundays.  

Philly gets much better.  The Hawks get much better AND Houston gets a ton of salary relief. 

Would Houston be willing to give up Sengun? I thought he was playing well for them. 

Edit - I don't know if Philly gets much better. Not sure how good John Wall is now.. lol...they would improve their cap situation though.

Missed the question on Wall.  Wall hasn't suited up for Houston all year as they've looked for a trade partner.  Last year for Houston he was 20ppp, 7 assists in 32 minutes shooting 40% from the field and 32% from 3.

[bleachkit]

1 minute ago, thecampster said:

Because Simmons is never suiting up for Philly again and Harris is very overpaid....Like $15 mil/year overpaid. They can't get better without moving on.

Wall is not an expiring. He has two years max money left on his deal, one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Houston can't give him away, and they somehow get value for him? No way. 

[Spud2nique]

26 minutes ago, thecampster said:

Excellent, now that this is out of the bag, I can spill.

Said with a straight face 

[Spud2nique]

25 minutes ago, marco102 said:

Sengun

He has the footwork of kg.. not @kg01 the real KG! fired  

[Spud2nique]

15 minutes ago, Final_quest said:

I love that according the Hollinger analysis none of these teams improve with this deal.  

He got lazy. There’s no way the projected meter doesn’t move by +/- 1 at least  

[bleachkit]

7 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I see where the grumpy cat's going with this.   Getting off the Harris contract is appealing to them, but PHI shouldn't be in 'save money' mode.  They're a supposed contender.

Maybe this deal just sets the stage for more transactions for them?

Taking on Wall and Bogi barely even saves them money. Neither are expirings. Unless they are getting hella draft picks, that trade makes no sense for the Sixers.

[JeffS17]

8 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

@Wretch don’t ever say I didn’t do anything for you. You’re welcome.

Atlanta a potential destination for Jerami Grant?

Meanwhile, some competing executives have Atlanta as a credible destination for Detroit Pistons forward Jerami Grant. The Pistons are thought to covet a young center, making Okongwu a potentially attractive option in a trade along with Reddish.

 

– via Eric Pincus @ Bleacher Report

 Top Rumors, Trade, Jerami Grant, Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons

 

Is this a joke?  Send out OO/Reddish for this guy?

[JeffS17]

5 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Taking on Wall and Bogi barely even saves them money. Neither are expirings. Unless they are getting hella draft picks, that trade makes no sense for the Sixers.

I don't understand why they would do it either.  Feels like this somehow makes them worse despite moving $33M that is not even dressing out.  Harris is overpaid but he's a good player.  John Wall is overpaid and he's a bad player.  I still don't understand it even with @thecampster explaining the rationale.  

[NBASupes]

It's that time of the year people. Remember, executives of other teams don't give a damn about your team and your team likely doesn't give a damn about there team on average. Just remember that. Be cautious of what you believe for most of these teams. 

[AHF]

6 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Is this a joke?  Send out OO/Reddish for this guy?

Seriously.  That would be a hate crime.

[Final_quest]

4 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

I don't understand why they would do it either.  Feels like this somehow makes them worse despite moving $33M that is not even dressing out.  Harris is overpaid but he's a good player.  John Wall is overpaid and he's a bad player.  I still don't understand it even with @thecampster explaining the rationale.  

I’m thinking the same thing.  Does Philly get two first round picks as well?  Also, this deal is coming from insider intel?

[JeffS17]

2 minutes ago, AHF said:

Seriously.  That would be a hate crime.

I would mail Schlenk my OO jersey with a breakup letter