Official Game Thread: Hawks at Nets (Game 1 of 2)

[REHawksFan]

1 minute ago, bleachkit said:

Me personally, I want the best shot, be it from Trae or someone else. 

I'm with you all the way til the last few minutes. Then I want my super star to take over the game like KD and Kyrie did. They were taking - and making - really tough shots because they are elite players.

I have no doubt they could have passed to Joe Harris at any time for an open shot but instead they took matters into their own hands. As the opponent, i was praying Kyrie would pass to Harris for a shot rather than him take a contested shot. Because I KNEW he was going to make it. Elite players do more often than not. 

I rather take my chances with Trae even in a contested shot than Hunter wide open in the corner. Or Bogie contested from the corner. Trae has proven he can handle that. 

 

[EazyRoc]

To be fair, I also noted Lukas weight at 18 as a cause for concern

[bleachkit]

2 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

I'm with you all the way til the last few minutes. Then I want my super star to take over the game like KD and Kyrie did. They were taking - and making - really tough shots because they are elite players.

I have no doubt they could have passed to Joe Harris at any time for an open shot but instead they took matters into their own hands. As the opponent, i was praying Kyrie would pass to Harris for a shot rather than him take a contested shot. Because I KNEW he was going to make it. Elite players do more often than not. 

I rather take my chances with Trae even in a contested shot than Hunter wide open in the corner. Or Bogie contested from the corner. Trae has proven he can handle that. 

 

Kyrie was really on late tonight. If I'm Steve Nash, Id rather a wide open three from Harris than a contested shot from Kyrie. But he hit them tonight, congrats to him. But he can go cold like anyone else.

[kg01]

14 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

There is a difference between healthy girth and unhealthy weight which Luka is definitely carrying.

Am I reading his stats right?  Shooting 13% from 3?

Oof.  Como se dice, fLuka?

Kidding, bleachk.  Don't call me a homer.

[NBASupes]

I didn't even notice JC getting shook live

 

[lethalweapon3]

Had 'em right where we wanted 'em... for awhile, anyway!

Let's see how well this crew heals up and learns from their early and late errors. Nets won't be #1 in D-Rating for awhile, that's for sure!

See y'all in 2K21! Go Hawks!

~lw3

[bleachkit]

2 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Am I reading his stats right?  Shooting 13% from 3?

Oof.  Como se dice, fLuka?

Kidding, bleachk.  Don't call me a homer.

He's not a great three point shooter. It's not his strength. But other stars have still been great without a reliable three ball. Kobe and Dwade were not great three point shooters. 

[sturt]

General statement that others probably have already said in so many words... I like that the team can go home knowing that they're competitive with one of the top tier team in the conference, and at the same time, go home very unsatisfied, very hungry.

I almost prefer it to having won, b/c winning could translate into some over confidence.

It's going to be a long slog, long grind and yet also a more concentrated one than in other seasons. Some very good teams on paper are going to underperform significantly. I thought we might be one of those. And truth be told, we still could be. The way these first 36 games are set is going to give us a whole lot more games like this than the 3 games we won before it.

[aali34]

Dude had a great game and still looks really upset. You love to see it.

Bring that energy Friday and get us a dub.

[Diesel]

1 hour ago, REHawksFan said:

Kept waiting for Trae to take over late just like Kyrie was doing. Kinda disappointed he never did. I know being patient is growth for him, and I like it earlier in the game. But late game situations are where I want him to own it rather than defer. If he's the elite player we all think he is he should be able to handle that imo. 

I think Trae is a different kind of superstar.   I don't know if he takes over or if we want him taking over by shooting threes, but I think you underestimate his ability to draw fouls.  A drawn foul is a backbreaker.  Trae looks like he's gone to the James Harden program for game management by drawing fouls.   Not to mention that at the end of games, he becomes our biggest decoy.  His ability to find the open man is only going to get better as guys get to know the system and he get to know our guys. 

Kyrie is a take over guard.  Not every guard is built that way. 

 

[terrell]

“They are going to be a team to be reckoned with this season.” - Kevin Durant on the Atlanta Hawks.

Edited December 31, 2020 by terrell

[HawkingAwesome]

 

[Diesel]

1 hour ago, hawkman said:

He came in looking like Jokic did last season. I was a bit surprised because he played in the bubble. This is beginning to be a pattern with him that nobody wants to talk about. 

I never really thought tha Luka was ever in shape to begin with.   He plays very well with the weight.  I think he will probably be like 3D was in his career.  Never cut up and had maybe a few pounds over ideal. 

[HawkingAwesome]

brooklyn is a pretty physical team

[bleachkit]

4 minutes ago, Diesel said:

I think Trae is a different kind of superstar.   I don't know if he takes over or if we want him taking over by shooting threes, but I think you underestimate his ability to draw fouls.  A drawn foul is a backbreaker.  Trae looks like he's gone to the James Harden program for game management by drawing fouls.   Not to mention that at the end of games, he becomes our biggest decoy.  His ability to find the open man is only going to get better as guys get to know the system and he get to know our guys. 

Kyrie is a take over guard.  Not every guard is built that way. 

 

Kyrie also the luxury of having KD there. That makes a huge difference. 

[HawkingAwesome]

i'm funny on basketball rules are you allowed to hip check someone ? actualy that wasn't a hip check that was a full on clip

[Diesel]

3 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

Kyrie also the luxury of having KD there. That makes a huge difference. 

That makes those efforts.... wins.  Last year and the Cleveland Years before Bron, Kyrie was doing the same thing but just couldn't win. 

It's an old story.. one star won't win you anything in this league.   That's why Lebron build teams to win championships and act like he should be on the same pedestals as guys who did not and won championships.  Trae in his early career has a team that will take him to the playoffs and allow him to see what's needed to win.   Put an asterisk by every Lebron title and then let Trae and the Hawks show you how to earn one.

 

[lethalweapon3]

KD: "Excuse me. Your slip is showing!"

And, while SOME teams have been falling behind by 40, in the start to the regular season...

~lw3

[kg01]

Rondo has exceeded my expectations so far, I must say.  And I was the one tryna convince yall he was gonna help us.

It just stands out how we don't fall off a cliff when Trae sits now.  I actually like watching our second unit.

I agree with those that say, if Gallo plays all game, we probably get this one.

On that Nets team, there's no margin for error in a close game with both their guys playing.  Trae's d on Harris was killer.  Allowed him to keep them in it while Kyme struggled.

[aali34]

5 minutes ago, Diesel said:

That makes those efforts.... wins.  Last year and the Cleveland Years before Bron, Kyrie was doing the same thing but just couldn't win. 

It's an old story.. one star won't win you anything in this league.   That's why Lebron build teams to win championships and act like he should be on the same pedestals as guys who did not and won championships.  Trae in his early career has a team that will take him to the playoffs and allow him to see what's needed to win.   Put an asterisk by every Lebron title and then let Trae and the Hawks show you how to earn one.

 

Can you blame a guy for taking matters into his own hands when management couldn't deliver? There are better reasons to debate whether or not LBJ is on any pedestal.