Official Game Thread: Bucks at Hawks -- ECF GAME 3

[hawkman]

This officially makes Game 4 a must win. Hopefully they do what they did against the 76ers and they go back to Milwaukee 2-2. These 'every other day' games aren't doing Trae's ankle any favors. 

[Jody23]

Tough loss.  The officiating was not good.  When Gallo got hacked on a three attempt right in front of the ref and no call?  And that's only one example.  I have no words on why the ref was that close behind Trae.  Just infuriating.  On to the next one.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

13 minutes ago, terrell said:

Wtf is up with Bogi man...smh

 

The clock struck midnight sometime during that Knicks series for him

 

[MarylandHawk]

10 minutes ago, Plainview1981 said:

Hawks are never going to the finals unless They get someone real to play with Trae. They had a good second half, they will give Nate a big contract and perhaps underachiever next year unless the roster is upgraded and Nate will exit in the middle of his contact possibly. He never lasts.

To be honest Bogi is real enough but he is hurt. I do think they could upgrade though. Even if they don’t and Dre and Cam step up next year we could be better. 

[Hawkmoor]

17 minutes ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

 

Trae is not the issue on defense.  They've successfully hid him on guys like Tucker and Forbes.

The problem is that we're playing a 3 guard offense vs 2 bigs and a legit SF in Middleton.

 

If Cam can go, he needs to get a legit shot at minutes at the 3, to see if he can be a defensive disruptor.

Let me clarify the Trae part.  I'm not talking about Trae's defense.  I'm talking about his offense.  Both Philadelphia and Milwaukee are using their size at times to slow Trae down on offense.  That means that Bogi has to take pressure off Trae.  If he is not hitting his open shots, the LENGTH of the defense can effect Trae if he can't turn the corner and get into the paint. 

In the playoffs, EVERYTHING is magnified.  Matchups are the key in the playoffs.  The Hawks small size hurts them on defense because of their short front court, and hurts them on offense because Trae has to fight thru the length of the blitzs coming at him.  Thats why Milwaukee even at times had Giannis come out and guard Trae.  Bogi HAS to hit 3 pointers to make them stop doing that.

Edited June 28, 2021 by Hawkmoor

[jbdrs]

2 minutes ago, hawkman said:

This officially makes Game 4 a must win. Hopefully they do what they did against the 76ers and they go back to Milwaukee 2-2. These 'every other day' games aren't doing Trae's ankle any favors. 

Another example was Giannis mugged OO on the alley OOP dunk.  He probably would have missed the free throw, but they didn't want to call any more fouls on Giannis obviously. 

[Atlantaholic]

4 minutes ago, hawkman said:

This officially makes Game 4 a must win. Hopefully they do what they did against the 76ers and they go back to Milwaukee 2-2. These 'every other day' games aren't doing Trae's ankle any favors. 

Love the optimism but Trae has a sprain, it will get mighty stiff by next game. Would be a miracle if he plays imo. 

[Plainview1981]

5 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

Now this is some real bull .  Hawks are IN the finals this year if Hunter and Bogie are healthy. They'll be in contention for years to come if they stay healthy. 

You're probably not getting to the finals with guys like Collins, Hunter or Bogi as your number 2.

Good players but you need a little more at this time of the year.

The bench also needs some changes. Gallo pretty much has ran solo in terms of the bench.

Lou Williams didn't really pay off... 

Solo should be cut ASAP.

There is probably less than a week to go... We'll see what happens.

 

 

 

[AHF]

3 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Nah.  It don't work that way.  Because none of us have coached a pro team.   Just a bunch of jokers with uninformed opinions.   Barkley knows more.   You telling Nate how to run his rotations is like a Blind man telling me what the skyline looks like.   Solo didn't lose this game for us.   Neither did Nate's rotations.   Sometimes, it's just a guys day.  It wouldn't have mattered who's hand was in  Middleton's face... He shot over everybody.   Your speculation is just poor overreaction and to go as far as to blame the coach is poor.

Truth lies in the middle for me.  If Nate puts Cam in and he is overmatched and we lose then he will get blamed.  If he puts in Snell and he gets torched and we lose he will get the blame.  If he plays Solo and we lose, he will get the blame.  Once Trae got hurt and Middleton got hot, it may well have been that every possible strategy led to a loss.  I was wondering if we shouldn’t have left Trae on the bench.  
 

But on the other hand, the expected result when Solo plays is a big negative.  He was the Big 0 tonight with 0 points, 0 assists, 0 offensive rebounds, 0 steals and 0 blocks to go with his -14 +/- in 15 minutes of play.  And none of that is particularly surprising for him.  
 

I’m going to split the baby and not blame Nate for the loss while also hoping he doesn’t rely like this on Solo again.  Putting Cam in could be a disaster but that feels like taking a swing.  Solo feels like watching that pitch go down the middle of the plate and taking the strikeout without swinging.  

[Atlantaholic]

1 minute ago, Plainview1981 said:

You're probably not getting to the finals with guys like Collins, Hunter or Bogi as your number 2.

Good players but you need a little more at this time of the year.

The bench also needs some changes. Gallo pretty much has ran solo in terms of the bench.

Lou Williams didn't really pay off... 

Solo should be cut ASAP.

There is probably less than a week to go... We'll see what happens.

 

 

 

Hunter is a potential #2 he was starting to light it up before his injury. 

[SalvorMallow]

Just now, Plainview1981 said:

You're probably not getting to the finals with guys like Collins, Hunter or Bogi as your number 2.

Good players but you need a little more at this time of the year.

The bench also needs some changes. Gallo pretty much has ran solo in terms of the bench.

Lou Williams didn't really pay off... 

Solo should be cut ASAP.

There is probably less than a week to go... We'll see what happens.

 

 

 

Collins was riding the bench in foul trouble for WAY TOO LONG. I would much rather John Collins foul out than play only 23 minutes.

[TheNorthCydeRises]

10 minutes ago, ATLHawks3 said:

And DUNN! We need someone to defend at the point of attack. Bucks got whatever they wanted on offense tonight, especially Middleton.

 

Nate is expecting his offensive guys to provide defense.

I agree that it may be time to empty every bullet you have, to see if we can solve our defensive issues.

This is what Tyronn Lue had to do in those first 2 rounds.  He was not adverse to even playing his 12th man, to see if that player can provide a spark.

 

The Trae injury MIGHT be a blessing in disguise, because it's going to force Nate to really dig deep with his rotations.  Maybe Dunn is the one to go with, instead of Lou, in this series.

If Cam and Dunn can go ( which it looked like they can in Game 2 ), I want to see those guys out on the floor in Game 4.

[SalvorMallow]

1 minute ago, AHF said:

Truth lies in the middle for me.  If Nate puts Cam in and he is overmatched and we lose then he will get blamed.  If he puts in Snell and he gets torched and we lose he will get the blame.  If he plays Solo and we lose, he will get the blame.  Once Trae got hurt and Middleton got hot, it may well have been that every possible strategy led to a loss.  I was wondering if we shouldn’t have left Trae on the bench.  
 

But on the other hand, the expected result when Solo plays is a big negative.  He was the Big 0 tonight with 0 points, 0 assists, 0 offensive rebounds, 0 steals and 0 blocks to go with his -14 +/- in 15 minutes of play.  And none of that is particularly surprising for him.  
 

I’m going to split the baby and not blame Nate for the loss while also hoping he doesn’t rely like this on Solo again.  Putting Cam in could be a disaster but that feels like taking a swing.  Solo feels like watching that pitch go down the middle of the plate and taking the strikeout without swinging.  

What about Hack-a-Giannis? Once you see Middleton scoring 10 points in 2 minutes, you have to do something, anything to slow him down.

[hawkman]

1 minute ago, Atlantaholic said:

Love the optimism but Trae has a sprain, it will get mighty stiff by next game. Would be a miracle if he plays imo. 

I know. If it was as painful to him as it looked during the game, it's going to be much worse later on. Unreal. 

[REHawksFan]

4 minutes ago, Plainview1981 said:

You're probably not getting to the finals with guys like Collins, Hunter or Bogi as your number 2.

Good players but you need a little more at this time of the year.

The bench also needs some changes. Gallo pretty much has ran solo in terms of the bench.

Lou Williams didn't really pay off... 

Solo should be cut ASAP.

There is probably less than a week to go... We'll see what happens.

 

 

 

Meh....your opinions are constantly negative and pessimistic. I don't buy into the dark cloud stuff over all of our players not named Trae. Hunter is plenty good to be the 2. And the bench would be significantly better if Hunter and Cam were healthy too. 

Edited June 28, 2021 by REHawksFan

[AHF]

Just now, SalvorMallow said:

What about Hack-a-Giannis? Once you see Middleton scoring 10 points in 2 minutes, you have to do something, anything to slow him down.

That can work but not in the last two minutes.  He barely touched the ball down the stretch.

[Plainview1981]

2 minutes ago, AHF said:

Truth lies in the middle for me.  If Nate puts Cam in and he is overmatched and we lose then he will get blamed.  If he puts in Snell and he gets torched and we lose he will get the blame.  If he plays Solo and we lose, he will get the blame.  Once Trae got hurt and Middleton got hot, it may well have been that every possible strategy led to a loss.  I was wondering if we shouldn’t have left Trae on the bench.  
 

But on the other hand, the expected result when Solo plays is a big negative.  He was the Big 0 tonight with 0 points, 0 assists, 0 offensive rebounds, 0 steals and 0 blocks to go with his -14 +/- in 15 minutes of play.  And none of that is particularly surprising for him.  
 

I’m going to split the baby and not blame Nate for the loss while also hoping he doesn’t rely like this on Solo again.  Putting Cam in could be a disaster but that feels like taking a swing.  Solo feels like watching that pitch go down the middle of the plate and taking the strikeout without swinging.  

Solo shouldn't even be in the NBA. There is no legit reason for him to be playing. He doesn't contribute.

[MarylandHawk]

13 minutes ago, Atlantaholic said:

No one is perfect, the fact is if refs were not garbage and if Trae didn't just get Tony Hardinged by an NBA official we win the game.

The refs were pretty one sided tonight. Giannis should have fouled out of that game. Guys were double dribbling right in front of them.  The were injuring our all star and called back court when Jrue clearly hit the ball. 

[JayBirdHawk]

12 minutes ago, Diesel said:

Because none of us have coached a pro team.   Just a bunch of jokers with uninformed opinions. 

Really, I would not have guessed. We should just shut down the Squawk then. 

[Atlantaholic]

1 minute ago, MarylandHawk said:

The refs were pretty one sided tonight. Giannis should have fouled out of that game. Guys were double dribbling right in front of them.  The were injuring our all star and called back court when Jrue clearly hit the ball. 

The blatant goal tend, the no call on the alley oop. Those were some of the worst calls I've ever seen.